As they can check your id in such cases, why do they need a law to check id, in which they already have the legal right to do so?
Or if I am doing something illegal, (that the police have probable cause to believe so, and not just because of my ethnicity)
Otherwise no I should not have to prove who I am. If I dont want to vote, no need for them to know who I am, if am not cashing a cheque, not need to know who I am. If I am just walking down the street or hanging out in a park, asking me anything is fine, forcing me to answer is not
As posted by Critical thought earlier
There is this wonderful concept I'd like to tell you about: it is called grammar.
Interesting topic of voting since you said that most "Mexican"-Americans voted for Dems I recall that certain Republicans claim that illrgal aliens vote in lage numbers. Anyone aware of factual sources for such stats? I mean something other than the Let's Send Them All BACK To Where They Came From PARTY..
While reading on this subject, I ran across this article. Just another view of what Arizona Republicans may really be up to. And, interesting enough, Karl Rove's name popped up. Son of a gun. :lol:
t r u t h o u t | Behind The Arizona Immigration Law: GOP Game to Swipe the November Election
This may have nothing to do with immigration. It may be all about politics after all. Tom DeLay type politics. Interesting.
While reading on this subject, I ran across this article. Just another view of what Arizona Republicans may really be up to. And, interesting enough, Karl Rove's name popped up. Son of a gun. :lol:
t r u t h o u t | Behind The Arizona Immigration Law: GOP Game to Swipe the November Election
This may have nothing to do with immigration. It may be all about politics after all. Tom DeLay type politics. Interesting.
What does that prove, other than the auther wrote his name? He mentioned GW Bush too, does that mean Bush is responsible for this law? HMMM Texas is not that far from AZ, Maybe he did do it.
The anti-Indian legislation is a fascist measure. It’s not surprising that it finds its primary support on the white supremacist forum Stormfront, where the rhetoric in favor of it is indistinguishable from that here.
Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Stormfront
Arizona Bill SB 1070 to Require Local Cops to Enforce Immigration Law - Page 2 - Stormfront
:rofl
As they can check your id in such cases, why do they need a law to check id, in which they already have the legal right to do so?
Or if I am doing something illegal, (that the police have probable cause to believe so, and not just because of my ethnicity)
Otherwise no I should not have to prove who I am. If I dont want to vote, no need for them to know who I am, if am not cashing a cheque, not need to know who I am. If I am just walking down the street or hanging out in a park, asking me anything is fine, forcing me to answer is not
As posted by Critical thought earlier
What do you think is going to be "probable cause" for the cops to request id from someone?
You people think the cops will have time to ask every damn Invader on the street for his ID? Seriously?
The author, Greg Palast, is an investigative journalist. It's one more article on what's going on down there.
All they need is a suspicion they could be illegal. Based on looks!
They want to get rid of the illegals and possibly scare legals against registering/voting for Repubs. They already prevented them from registering.
Seriously.
The police already have the ability to see the drivers IDWhat do you think is going to be "probable cause" for the cops to request id from someone?
Traffic stops will be good.
No it is not, Americans can speak any language they want to, it is not illegal to speak Mandarin, French, Russian, or English in the US. As such it does not provide probable causeArriving to a call from a slum tenement and being unable to find an adult that can speak english is another.
A gaggle of men in working clothes loitering at the parking lot entrance to Home Depot, Lowes, or other construction supply store. Loitering is an infraction that authorizes local police to ask what business the people are up to.
You people think the cops will have time to ask every damn Invader on the street for his ID? Seriously?
I can't wrap my head around your post Scarecrow, because Profiling doesn't make police work effective.
It just make the person unreasonable to the next cop that stops them this is why my father who is a Fire Marshal doesn't do that.
The law, as written, violates the 14th amendment of many of the legal Hispanic residents of Arizona. That is all there is to it. It's unconstitutional and it will be overturned by the courts. It's a badly written law because it is too vague and too broad and leaves all the discretion in the hands of law enforcement.
Discretion is SUPPOSED to be in the hands of the cops.
This law is great! I hope more States pass laws that hold accountable people that are breaking the law. Illegal immigrants are already illegal, so it is time to do something about it. Thank you Arizona for doing the right thing.
I heard that Al Sharpton is looking for a new cohort, maybe you should apply
Every time the illegals have their little rallies more White people wake up.
I say let them have their riots, it will be an eye opener for more Whites.
Personally, I have ICE there checking I.D.'s on everyone without White skin!
We couldn't ask for a better gift. That race baiting old fool will rob the La Raza immigration criminals of what little sympathy they have left with whites. They'll stink like a feces smeared Twanna Brawley when he gets through with them.
Fascism is what this law is, and I do hope they will disband this law
Those that give up freedom for a little bit of security deserve neither ~Ben Franklin
What is each person's definition of "Fascism" and how is this law "Fascist?"
Arizona's governor said they would "enforce the law evenly, and without regard to skin color, accent, or social status". They are already illegal, so this is just helping enforce current laws.
In the State I live in the police set-up random roadblocks to find drunk drivers, people with no auto insurance, or registration. So no one is singled out. This could be the same in Arizona perhaps.
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