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Are we ready for 10 more years of wrath from the eternal Woman Scorned?

SmokeAndMirrors said:
'Course she is. It's lucrative. She's leaving non-bait out there for the gullible, both the Dems who think she's gonna run again, and the Reps who have a rage boner over her.
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All of her behavior up till this point, from her book to her comments, to her fundraising, to her low profile (her popularity drops when she speaks in public) point to her running. If she wasn't she'd have said that-and shifted the momentum to potential candidates who are.

She said she's going to make an announcement in April, its quite clear what that is. And in the mean time, her own actions continue to smear her.
 
US Conservative said:
Exactly. She wants the Presidency, and she's acting like it. Too bad her corrupt and slimey record is getting in the way. Her chance was in 2008.
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I have always thought so, since the demographics came back and the margin of support between her and Obama was youth and black. She would likely be able to draw the 'those who don't have' [as opposed to those who can't have] in any color. But the 'have's' and youth are gone to her. What I now like to think of as the "Lucile Ball Syndrome", funny as hell to my parents' generation but a huge "WTF" in mine.

However, I still maintained as I have from the beginning, she is the best possible candidate for the Republicans; their job, should they decide to accept it, is to ensure she gets the nomination.
 
matchlight said:
I hope very much that Mrs. Clinton is the Democratic Party candidate.
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If you look back over the last 50 years, it is the more likeable man who has won the presidency--Obama more likeable than Romney or McCain; Bush more likeable than Kerry or Gore; Clinton more likeable than Dole or Bush; Bush more likeable than Dukakis; Reagan more likeable than Mondale or Carter; Carter more likeable than Ford. Not sure on Nixon because I don't think he came across as overly likeable, but he managed to dispatch McGovern and Humphrey pretty easily. Johnson was more likeable than Goldwater and Kennedy more likeable than Nixon.

That said, who is Hillary more likeable than? While there might be some truth in republicans being afraid of a Hillary candidacy, it might truly be the dems that should be afraid.
 
Cephus said:
Wait, when did we ever actually get hope and change again?
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There was a moment, while walking away from the podium of the first inauguration where the nation actually believed there would be "change". It lasted several days in fact, then reality hit and Obama referred to the Republicans in congress as his personal "enemies" and we were sure there had been a change....for the worse.

That is when hope died along with integrity, honesty, accountability and believability......there is no hope and will be none until the American voter smartens up. You elected a rock star
 
Fearandloathing said:
There was a moment, while walking away from the podium of the first inauguration where the nation actually believed there would be "change". It lasted several days in fact, then reality hit and Obama referred to the Republicans in congress as his personal "enemies" and we were sure there had been a change....for the worse.

That is when hope died along with integrity, honesty, accountability and believability......there is no hope and will be none until the American voter smartens up. You elected a rock star
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It was the day the oceans stopped rising. This is what happens when American vote based on the cult of personality.
 
Redress said:
All the effort conservatives and republicans put into trashing clinton, and she still dominates the polls: RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 Presidential Polls

If it doesn't work, keep doing it...
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Yeah, I mean being a crook is part of being a democrat. Libertarians and conservatives should quite criticizing party members for being crooks.

Shhhhhhhhhhh, QUIET, don't say anything....

ROFL

Leftists are a hoot.
 
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US Conservative said:
It was the day the oceans stopped rising. This is what happens when American vote based on the cult of personality.
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I recall a conversation I had back then, shortly after the "five days from now" speech and offering that Obama, blow hard, would one day come to rue his rhetoric. He, by then, had seemed to promise everything to everyone, from gay marriage to new marijuana reform, to telling Michigan and Ohio auto workers he would tear up NAFTA....a stupid idea.

What surprises me is how long the American people have taken to wake up to the fact he never intended any of that in the first place.....
 
Fearandloathing said:
I recall a conversation I had back then, shortly after the "five days from now" speech and offering that Obama, blow hard, would one day come to rue his rhetoric. He, by then, had seemed to promise everything to everyone, from gay marriage to new marijuana reform, to telling Michigan and Ohio auto workers he would tear up NAFTA....a stupid idea.

What surprises me is how long the American people have taken to wake up to the fact he never intended any of that in the first place.....
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Some still haven't woke up-we call them gruberites.
 
Fletch said:
If you look back over the last 50 years, it is the more likeable man who has won the presidency--Obama more likeable than Romney or McCain; Bush more likeable than Kerry or Gore; Clinton more likeable than Dole or Bush; Bush more likeable than Dukakis; Reagan more likeable than Mondale or Carter; Carter more likeable than Ford. Not sure on Nixon because I don't think he came across as overly likeable, but he managed to dispatch McGovern and Humphrey pretty easily. Johnson was more likeable than Goldwater and Kennedy more likeable than Nixon.

That said, who is Hillary more likeable than? While there might be some truth in republicans being afraid of a Hillary candidacy, it might truly be the dems that should be afraid.
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I think you are on to something there. Eisenhower goes back a little further, but most people seemed to like him. They even made it the campaign slogan: "I Like Ike." As to Nixon, Hubert Humphrey was hurt by the fact he was just plain drab--he seemed to disappear on TV. And many Americans saw McGovern as just too radical--he was as much a collectivist at heart as President Pinocchio is. I always thought Nixon was at heart a good man and very solid on foreign policy. I did not like his nonchalance about the growth of the federal government, and his attacks on the foundations of our government were good reason to move to impeach him. That is even more true of Obama, but his race almost guarantees he won't be impeached as he deserves.

Mrs. Clinton does not strike me as a likeable person--look at the contrast with, say, Laura or Barbara Bush, or Sarah Palin, or Michele Bachmann, who seem like very nice, pleasant women. If Michele can't make the presidency, I just hope Rep. Kristi Noem stays in public life. We could do worse than to have a babe for president--especially a smart and personable one. Hey, I'm shallow--so sue me.
 
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