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Are we helping to 'bring down' America.

Are we helping to 'bring down' America by our discussions in this forum?

  • No, this is all good hearted banter.

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • No, it will change after the election.

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • No, these divisions are real and changes need to be made

    Votes: 11 37.9%
  • Yes, these discussions are an accurate representation of America's positions.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Yes, nothing will change after the election.

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Yes, these divisions are real and changes need to be made.

    Votes: 8 27.6%
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It is pretty clear that the primary goal of foreign intrusion into our election season is not to swing elections, but to divide Americans of different political, cultural, economic backgrounds. If you think 'bots' are not actively involved in this website, I have some beachfront property in Elko to sell you. No matter the outcome of the current election, does anyone believe we will come together after to work for the betterment of the country?
 
It is pretty clear that the primary goal of foreign intrusion into our election season is not to swing elections, but to divide Americans of different political, cultural, economic backgrounds. If you think 'bots' are not actively involved in this website, I have some beachfront property in Elko to sell you. No matter the outcome of the current election, does anyone believe we will come together after to work for the betterment of the country?

This seems a fair, balanced description of where we are at and where we need to go....

Opinion/Sasse: Republicans, workers and unions
Gary Sasse Sept. 25, 2020

Gary Sasse is the founding director of the Hassenfeld Institute for Public Leadership at Bryant University.
Before the votes are counted in November, think tanks and some Republican office-holders are considering what the GOP should stand for in the post-Trump era.
This introspection is necessary because the Republican Party currently lacks a positive governing strategy to respond to calls for greater economic opportunity and social justice, as well as addressing climate change.
Today, finance capitalism places too much power in the hands of the corporate, academic and governing elites at the expense of working families. As Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, observed, “We have become defenders of the rights of business to make a profit, the right of shareholders to receive a return on their investments, and the obligation people have to work. But we have neglected the rights of workers to share in the benefits they create for their employers and the obligation of business to act in the best interest of the workers and the country that have made success possible.”

Seriously, though.... the right has muscled the politics in one direction, to an extreme, and now we are about to experience "snap back" toward the center right, which is the furthest the PTB in a position to control the extent of such repositioning will ever permit it to "land".

Otherwise, there would be successor PTB...

"...President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence both asked their Democratic opponents in the recent debates whether they would pack the court, presumably with liberals. Both former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Kamala Harris danced around the issue, never answering the question. They should have told the truth: The court is already packed — with conservatives.


In fact, in every year since 1970, the majority of Supreme Court justices have been Republican appointees. Since the beginning of Chief Justice Warren Burger’s court until the death of Justice Ruth B. Ginsberg, there have been 17 Republican appointed-justices and 8 Democratic appointed-justices sitting on the Supreme Court.


At no time was there a majority of Democratic justices on the court to write its majority decision. By going to the web link for each of the last three Chief Justices, you can see those numbers.


In addition, the last four Supreme Court chief justices have been politically active Republicans appointed by Republican presidents: ..."
 
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It is pretty clear that the primary goal of foreign intrusion into our election season is not to swing elections, but to divide Americans of different political, cultural, economic backgrounds. If you think 'bots' are not actively involved in this website, I have some beachfront property in Elko to sell you. No matter the outcome of the current election, does anyone believe we will come together after to work for the betterment of the country?
I won't say "we" are, but certainly "some" are. (And that "some" has nothing to do with "foreign intrusion".)

And no...after Trump wins again, we'll have to endure four more years of the same Trump-hater created divisiveness.
 
It is pretty clear that the primary goal of foreign intrusion into our election season is not to swing elections, but to divide Americans of different political, cultural, economic backgrounds. If you think 'bots' are not actively involved in this website, I have some beachfront property in Elko to sell you. No matter the outcome of the current election, does anyone believe we will come together after to work for the betterment of the country?

Frankly, I'm beyond caring. We are well past the point of "irreconcilable differences" at this point.

Hate to say it... But there's simply no way to "work together" in any meaningful sense with the growing number of people in this country who seem to not only want to implement economic policies straight out of some Cold War era Eastern Bloc nation, but completely dismantle traditional American, and Western, values and culture in favor of some amorphous "post-national" "queer" blob of meaningless Neo-Marxist drek. The "Culture War" has effectively become a "zero sum" game.

I'm just sitting here, doing my best to hunker down and get by, waiting for the shooting to start.
 
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Frankly, I'm beyond caring. We are well past the point of "irreconcilable differences" at this point.

Hate to say it... But there's simply no way to "work together" in any meaningful sense with the growing number of people in this country who seem to want to not only implement economic policies straight out of some Cold War Eastern Bloc nation, completely dismantle traditional American, and Western, values and culture. The "Culture War" has effectively become a "zero sum" game.

I'm just sitting here, doing my best to get by, waiting for the shooting to start.

LOL .... and what you've described is with your ilk dominating for the past 50 years! You sound like a proverbial dog who chased the car, and caught it,

"As Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, observed, “We have become defenders of the rights of business to make a profit, the right of shareholders to receive a return on their investments, and the obligation people have to work. But we have neglected the rights of workers to share in the benefits they create for their employers and the obligation of business to act in the best interest of the workers and the country that have made success possible.”

.......
"They should have told the truth: The court is already packed — with conservatives.


In fact, in every year since 1970, the majority of Supreme Court justices have been Republican appointees. Since the beginning of Chief Justice Warren Burger’s court until the death of Justice Ruth B. Ginsberg, there have been 17 Republican appointed-justices and 8 Democratic appointed-justices sitting on the Supreme Court.


At no time was there a majority of Democratic justices on the court to write its majority decision. By going to the web link for each of the last three Chief Justices, you can see those numbers.


In addition, the last four Supreme Court chief justices have been politically active Republicans appointed by Republican presidents: ..."
 
It is pretty clear that the primary goal of foreign intrusion into our election season is not to swing elections, but to divide Americans of different political, cultural, economic backgrounds. If you think 'bots' are not actively involved in this website, I have some beachfront property in Elko to sell you. No matter the outcome of the current election, does anyone believe we will come together after to work for the betterment of the country?
There is no "we" here. There is only one side doing all they can to initiate violence and steal the election by suppressing the vote. Let's not "both sides" this. The assholes are one-sided, just like they were in Charlottesville.

These are not good people.
 
It is pretty clear that the primary goal of foreign intrusion into our election season is not to swing elections, but to divide Americans of different political, cultural, economic backgrounds. If you think 'bots' are not actively involved in this website, I have some beachfront property in Elko to sell you. No matter the outcome of the current election, does anyone believe we will come together after to work for the betterment of the country?

How do I know your not a bot?
 
Frankly, I'm beyond caring. We are well past the point of "irreconcilable differences" at this point.

Hate to say it... But there's simply no way to "work together" in any meaningful sense with the growing number of people in this country who seem to not only want to implement economic policies straight out of some Cold War era Eastern Bloc nation, but completely dismantle traditional American, and Western, values and culture in favor of some amorphous "post-national" "queer" blob of meaningless Neo-Marxist drek. The "Culture War" has effectively become a "zero sum" game.

I'm just sitting here, doing my best to hunker down and get by, waiting for the shooting to start.
Lol. Can you define these things with any accuracy at all?
 
Frankly, I'm beyond caring. We are well past the point of "irreconcilable differences" at this point.

Hate to say it... But there's simply no way to "work together" in any meaningful sense with the growing number of people in this country who seem to not only want to implement economic policies straight out of some Cold War era Eastern Bloc nation, but completely dismantle traditional American, and Western, values and culture in favor of some amorphous "queer" blob of meaningless Neo-Marxist drek. The "Culture War" has effectively become a "zero sum" game.

I'm just sitting here, doing my best to hunker down and get by, waiting for the shooting to start.
I would gladly grant a divorce to any asshole Trumper. They can all go away. Russia is wide open. I am sure they can find room in Eurasia to spew their nonsensical homophobic, misogynist, bible-clinging, gun worshiping beliefs to each other in peace. Leave us alone.

Divorce granted. ByeDon and all your idiot friends.
 
I would gladly grant a divorce to any asshole Trumper. They can all go away. Russia is wide open. I am sure they can find room in Eurasia to spew their nonsensical homophobic, misogynist, bible-clinging, gun worshiping beliefs to each other in peace. Leave us alone.

Divorce granted. ByeDon and all your idiot friends.

Sounds like you picked up on that "incoherent vibe", too!
 
It is pretty clear that the primary goal of foreign intrusion into our election season is not to swing elections, but to divide Americans of different political, cultural, economic backgrounds. If you think 'bots' are not actively involved in this website, I have some beachfront property in Elko to sell you. No matter the outcome of the current election, does anyone believe we will come together after to work for the betterment of the country?
“America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: Its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin
Socialism is a gateway drug to Communism. "The goal of Socialism is Communism".- Vladimir Lenin. Wouldn't Lenin know?
 
Lol. Can you define these things with any accuracy at all?

Hmmm... Well, let's see. We've got freaking AOC talking about literally Nationalizing the US economy in the name of fighting some "phantom war" against the weather, which - naturally - will never end. In that proposal, she advanced numerous polices basically yanked right out of Marxist-Leninist economics, like "guaranteed employment" through job placement lotteries, and the banning of private modes of transportation in favor of some ungodly massive, state owned, rail system.

And then we had most of the Democratic Party sign off on this patently insane proposal, and say that they thought it was a good idea....
 
I would gladly grant a divorce to any asshole Trumper. They can all go away. Russia is wide open. I am sure they can find room in Eurasia to spew their nonsensical homophobic, misogynist, bible-clinging, gun worshiping beliefs to each other in peace. Leave us alone.

Divorce granted. ByeDon and all your idiot friends.

How about all of you just move to Cali and NYC, officially secede, and leave the rest of us alone, eh?

No "take backsies," now. You don't get to come crawling back when the place implodes.
 
“America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: Its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin
Socialism is a gateway drug to Communism. "The goal of Socialism is Communism".- Vladimir Lenin. Wouldn't Lenin know?

Social democracy - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
"Social democracy is a political, social and economic philosophy within socialism that supports political and economic democracy. As a policy regime, it is described by academics as advocating economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal-democratic polity and a capitalist-oriented mixed economy.The protocols and norms used to accomplish this ..."

Opinion/Sasse: Republicans, workers and unions
Gary Sasse Sept. 25, 2020

Gary Sasse is the founding director of the Hassenfeld Institute for Public Leadership at Bryant University.
Before the votes are counted in November, think tanks and some Republican office-holders are considering what the GOP should stand for in the post-Trump era.
This introspection is necessary because the Republican Party currently lacks a positive governing strategy to respond to calls for greater economic opportunity and social justice, as well as addressing climate change.
Today, finance capitalism places too much power in the hands of the corporate, academic and governing elites at the expense of working families. As Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, observed, “We have become defenders of the rights of business to make a profit, the right of shareholders to receive a return on their investments, and the obligation people have to work. But we have neglected the rights of workers to share in the benefits they create for their employers and the obligation of business to act in the best interest of the workers and the country that have made success possible.”
 
Frankly, I'm beyond caring. We are well past the point of "irreconcilable differences" at this point.

Hate to say it... But there's simply no way to "work together" in any meaningful sense with the growing number of people in this country who seem to not only want to implement economic policies straight out of some Cold War era Eastern Bloc nation, but completely dismantle traditional American, and Western, values and culture in favor of some amorphous "post-national" "queer" blob of meaningless Neo-Marxist drek. The "Culture War" has effectively become a "zero sum" game.

I'm just sitting here, doing my best to hunker down and get by, waiting for the shooting to start.

If there is a worse example of projection and a self-fulfilling prophecy rolled into one, I have yet to see it.

Notice what Rhakron does. He starts by immediately throwing in the towel. Next he spews typical right-wing propaganda about what centrists and liberals want, infused with typical right-wing extremist rhetoric such as "Neo-Marxism" and "Culture War."

The dead giveaway is his admission that he believes the "Culture War," which he was surprisingly honest enough to put into quotes, is a zero-sum game. This is a view he shares with white nationalists.

Until that kind of bullshit leaves our nation, there can be no common ground.
 
If there is a worse example of projection and a self-fulfilling prophecy rolled into one, I have yet to see it.

Notice what Rhakron does. He starts by immediately throwing in the towel. Next he spews typical right-wing propaganda about what centrists and liberals want, infused with typical right-wing extremist rhetoric such as "Neo-Marxism" and "Culture War."

The dead giveaway is his admission that he believes the "Culture War," which he was surprisingly honest enough to put into quotes, is a zero-sum game. This is a view he shares with white nationalists.

Until that kind of bullshit leaves our nation, there can be no common ground.

Notice how he dismisses literally every, completely valid, point I made, by simply slapping the term "White Nationalist" on the end of his post. (Did I mention I'm in a mixed race marriage with mixed race children?)

Until that kind of bullshit leaves our nation, there can be no common ground.
 
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How about all of you just move to Cali and NYC, officially secede, and leave the rest of us alone, eh?

No "take backsies," now. You don't get to come crawling back when the place implodes.
Notice how he dismisses literally every, completely valid, point I made, by simply slapping the term "White Nationalist" on the end of his post.

Until that kind of bullshit leaves our nation, there can be no common ground.

Your way, or the highway, "hon" ? LOL

Facts are stubborn things....

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Facts are stubborn things....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...d-judiciary-lack-diversity-column/5357852002/
Jul 3, 2020 None of his 53 confirmed appeals court judges is Black. Not a single one. ..the first president since Nixon..without selecting a Black nominee ... Of all the ..we can see right now with this presidency — from retweeting “white power” videos to protecting Confederate monuments, neglecting intelligence briefings and refusing to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic — one of Trump’s most dangerous and lasting legacies ..he and McConnell have done to the federal judiciary." ..This is indeed very political. It is also about the conservative, male-dominated preservation of the courts in the hands of conservative white men, more than it is about the “rule of law.”

Our choice is Joe Biden*

Oct 25, 2020
"....Since Trump took over, the national debt has exploded by more than 7 TRILLION dollars. While the last several trillion was in response to the COVID-19 economic crisis, at least the first three trillion was on the books well before the pandemic, while Trump was presiding over “...the best economy we’ve ever had in the history of our country.” (Trump’s words.)
The layman would expect that the best economy in history would be a time to get the fiscal house in order, pay down debt and prepare for a rainy day (or perhaps a worldwide pandemic). The real tragedy of this scenario is that the runaway spending under the Trump administration has flashed dollar signs in the eyes of Capitol Hill Democrats. Trillions in unchecked spending has them clamoring to birth the social programs of their dreams.
Federal spending is on an unsustainable path. The fact that it has continued under an allegedly conservative president is unbelievable.

Mr. Trump rightly points out that the COVID-19 crisis isn’t his fault, but a true leader must own any situation that happens on their watch. We may be turning a corner with this virus, but the corner we turned is down a dark alley of record infections and deaths. Mr. Trump is a self-proclaimed expert on a wide variety of topics, but when pushed on basic topics he doesn’t want to discuss, he very quickly feigns ignorance..."

Trump inherited a national debt growing at an average $56 billion per month. Between 10/1/2017 and 02/26/2020, a span of 29 months that included the passage of the Trump-McConnell tax cuts for the rich and the immediate eve of pandemic economic effect, the national debt increased an average $109 billion per month.

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The divide has certainly worsened the more extreme right wing has gotten power but the white wingers know demographics will thwart their stranglehold on power which is why they panicked and took the game show host.
 
Notice how he dismisses literally every, completely valid, point I made, by simply slapping the term "White Nationalist" on the end of his post.

Until that kind of bullshit leaves our nation, there can be no common ground.

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I love it. I just love it. Imitation is THE most sincere form of flattery, and you just delivered it bigly.

But please, continue. You're making my points for me better than I possibly could. :)
 
Notice how he dismisses literally every, completely valid, point I made, by simply slapping the term "White Nationalist" on the end of his post.

Until that kind of bullshit leaves our nation, there can be no common ground.
There wont be any common ground with you. You are right.
 
There wont be any common ground with you. You are right.

Then it would appear we are in violent agreement.

Let the best man, "hxer," Attack Helicopter, and/or bag of Cool Ranch Doritos win. :)
 
Then it would appear we are in violent agreement.

Let the best man, "hxer," Attack Helicopter, and/or bag of Cool Ranch Doritos win. :)
I prefer social justice red mage ;).
 
If there is a worse example of projection and a self-fulfilling prophecy rolled into one, I have yet to see it.

Notice what Rhakron does. He starts by immediately throwing in the towel. Next he spews typical right-wing propaganda about what centrists and liberals want, infused with typical right-wing extremist rhetoric such as "Neo-Marxism" and "Culture War."

The dead giveaway is his admission that he believes the "Culture War," which he was surprisingly honest enough to put into quotes, is a zero-sum game. This is a view he shares with white nationalists.

Until that kind of bullshit leaves our nation, there can be no common ground.

I "loathe" my self for wanting to have a strong economy, pay less taxes, and not constantly be brow-beaten by public figures (or even my government) for my race, sex, or other demographic features I cannot change?

I do not think that word means what you think it means...

I posted this on another thread, replying to the post quoted above, but the protests of the premise of this thread speak volumes.

Link to my original post

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From your POV, it's only "about the Benjamins", huh? Not an introspective or empathetic bone fragment in your body. Justice, equal protection under the law, integrity of the legal system... no concern of yours..... Trumpism is making us all wealthier!

Have you even noticed Trump is the neediest, most insecure, self described victim in the history of U.S. politics?

Self loathing.... Trump is overwhelmed by it and how 'bout these "fellas" ?

"The Proud Boys," according to the Press. The Proud Boys claim to be a fraternal group of "western chauvinists" whose mission is to spread an "anti-political correctness" and "anti-white guilt" agenda, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

It does not occur to centered individuals, the ones who maintain mental and emotional wellness by monitoring it and seeking routine professional evaluation as they do through, say, an annual physical, to constantly slake a thirst for confirmation of their adequacy.

June 17, 2020 :
Trump's lack of self-esteem results in 'dangerous ...
https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-lack-...s-decisions-psychoanalyst-says-235134096.html
President Trump. (Alex Brandon/AP) A prominent psychoanalyst who specializes in understanding narcissistic personalities says that President Trump suffers from a grievous lack of self-esteem, causing him to crave the approval of others to the point that he is willing to take "dangerous" risks in order to look like a "winner."
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