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Donald Trump Rejects Intelligence Briefing Facts | Time
Citing multiple in-person episodes, these intelligence officials say Trump displays what one called “willful ignorance” when presented with analyses generated by America’s $81 billion-a-year intelligence services. The officials, who include analysts who prepare Trump’s briefs and the briefers themselves, describe futile attempts to keep his attention by using visual aids, confining some briefing points to two or three sentences, and repeating his name and title as frequently as possible.
What is most troubling, say these officials and others in government and on Capitol Hill who have been briefed on the episodes, are Trump’s angry reactions when he is given information that contradicts positions he has taken or beliefs he holds. Two intelligence officers even reported that they have been warned to avoid giving the President intelligence assessments that contradict stances he has taken in public.
The problem has existed since the beginning of Trump’s presidency, the intelligence officials say, and for a time they tried to respond to the President’s behavior in briefings with dark humor. After a briefing in preparation for a meeting with British Prime Minister Theresa May, for example, the subject turned to the British Indian Ocean Territory of Diego Garcia. The island is home to an important airbase and a U.S. Naval Support Facility that are central to America’s ability to project power in the region, including in the war in Afghanistan.
The President, officials familiar with the briefing said, asked two questions: Are the people nice, and are the beaches good? “Some of us wondered if he was thinking about our alliance with the Brits and the security issues in an important area where the Chinese have been increasingly active, or whether he was thinking like a real estate developer,” one of the officials said wryly.
I'm guessing Trump isn't using his PDB as a political weapon the way his predecessor did.
Anyway, I'm not worried about Trump's methods of decision making. Let me know when he starts a war, though.
I'm guessing Trump isn't using his PDB as a political weapon the way his predecessor did.
Anyway, I'm not worried about Trump's methods of decision making. Let me know when he starts a war, though.
'Willful Ignorance.' Inside President Trump's Troubled Intelligence Briefings
Donald Trump Rejects Intelligence Briefing Facts | Time
Dereliction of duty is not illegal, but, depending on the gravity of it and reasonably assessed serious consequences, it could be one of the items on a Senate or Congress's ( not sure who would initially write it up) articles of impeachment.
Willful ignorance might seem innocuous if we are talking about policies on whether or not the gov should keep track of the profits of horse breeders) but it could altogether something far more serious if we are talking about ignorance of intelligence briefs if they were about a foreign country developing a super weapon for which we cannot fight back on any viable level unless we act now as the window of safety is closing rapidly.
This article in Time Magazine goes into great detail about how Trump's willful ignorance of intelligence briefs are a serious threat to America's national security.
The sad thing is, there are so many 5 alarms sounding currently, people are getting used to them and are now not thinking that much about it.
And this one is most alarming.
What is happening that those intel officers who contradict the Prez after something he said on TV, he cuts off access. This happened to Kelly, McMaster, and no doubt many others who are no longer there. They lose access, they feel they are not valued and there work has no value to the president, and they leave.
I don't think republicans understand how serious this is to our national security, in an ever shrinking intel officer pool
I understand that the knee jerk reaction by right wingers will be, well, not even to read it or gloss over it, and say, "TDS, jobs are up, this is not important".
That, too, is alarming. It would be like you are standing on the Titanic, and someone from the boiler room comes up and shouts "Hull has been breached, waters coming ini", and you brush your lapel with your fingers, and think, please don't bore me with this, the food is delicious, and the music is lovely."
Well, history's record of such consequences is more than well known.
It's like he doesn't care, he's got his way of thinking and that is that. He doesn't grasp the danger he is to the national security of the United States, for only "he can fix it", and "he knows more than the generals" , and " intel told Bush there were weapons of mass destruction and bush should go to war (therefore they are wrong all the time)
Well, I hate to tell you, Mr. Trump, that line about WND and the intel report that supposedly led to Bush's decision to go to war didn't actually say that, not by any stretch of the imagination. No matter, you wouldn't read it, anyway.
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Trump has already started a war. He's pitting Americans against Americans. ( divide and conquer ) ........next....
'Willful Ignorance.' Inside President Trump's Troubled Intelligence Briefings
Donald Trump Rejects Intelligence Briefing Facts | Time
Dereliction of duty is not illegal, but, depending on the gravity of it and reasonably assessed serious consequences, it could be one of the items on a Senate or Congress's ( not sure who would initially write it up) articles of impeachment.
Willful ignorance might seem innocuous if we are talking about policies on whether or not the gov should keep track of the profits of horse breeders) but it could altogether something far more serious if we are talking about ignorance of intelligence briefs if they were about a foreign country developing a super weapon for which we cannot fight back on any viable level unless we act now as the window of safety is closing rapidly.
This article in Time Magazine goes into great detail about how Trump's willful ignorance of intelligence briefs are a serious threat to America's national security.
The sad thing is, there are so many 5 alarms sounding currently, people are getting used to them and are now not thinking that much about it.
And this one is most alarming.
What is happening that those intel officers who contradict the Prez after something he said on TV, he cuts off access. This happened to Kelly, McMaster, and no doubt many others who are no longer there. They lose access, they feel they are not valued and there work has no value to the president, and they leave.
I don't think republicans understand how serious this is to our national security, in an ever shrinking intel officer pool
I understand that the knee jerk reaction by right wingers will be, well, not even to read it or gloss over it, and say, "TDS, jobs are up, this is not important".
That, too, is alarming. It would be like you are standing on the Titanic, and someone from the boiler room comes up and shouts "Hull has been breached, waters coming ini", and you brush your lapel with your fingers, and think, please don't bore me with this, the food is delicious, and the music is lovely."
Well, history's record of such consequences is more than well known.
It's like he doesn't care, he's got his way of thinking and that is that. He doesn't grasp the danger he is to the national security of the United States, for only "he can fix it", and "he knows more than the generals" , and " intel told Bush there were weapons of mass destruction and bush should go to war (therefore they are wrong all the time)
Well, I hate to tell you, Mr. Trump, that line about WND and the intel report that supposedly led to Bush's decision to go to war didn't actually say that, not by any stretch of the imagination. No matter, you wouldn't read it, anyway.
,
I don't recall him ever doing that, without the other side doing it first. So either you're omitting that he and his supporters have been getting attacked since before the election finished, or you're excusing it.
Which is it?
It's that what goes around comes around.
At this point Trump's boomerang is coming back at him and headed right up the crack in his ass.
We'll hear him when it happens coming soon.
I don't recall him ever doing that, without the other side doing it first. So either you're omitting that he and his supporters have been getting attacked since before the election finished, or you're excusing it.
Which is it?
/// I don't recall him ever doing that, without the other side doing it first. /// <----- Thanks for validating my claim. That was extemely easy.
So excusing it then.
Good to know.
The nation is divided and that is fact.
What Trump expanded and intensified is coming back at him as well it should and as you over there should expect it to.
So now you're back on your heels in denials, deflections, accusations and whining in addition to the usual whinging.
Trump and His Fanboys are the new Lost Cause.
Is that something that you would solely lay at Trumps feet?
The Putin-Trump Fanboys.
'Willful Ignorance.' Inside President Trump's Troubled Intelligence Briefings
Donald Trump Rejects Intelligence Briefing Facts | Time
Dereliction of duty is not illegal, but, depending on the gravity of it and reasonably assessed serious consequences, it could be one of the items on a Senate or Congress's ( not sure who would initially write it up) articles of impeachment.
Willful ignorance might seem innocuous if we are talking about policies on whether or not the gov should keep track of the profits of horse breeders) but it could altogether something far more serious if we are talking about ignorance of intelligence briefs if they were about a foreign country developing a super weapon for which we cannot fight back on any viable level unless we act now as the window of safety is closing rapidly.
This article in Time Magazine goes into great detail about how Trump's willful ignorance of intelligence briefs are a serious threat to America's national security.
The sad thing is, there are so many 5 alarms sounding currently, people are getting used to them and are now not thinking that much about it.
And this one is most alarming.
What is happening that those intel officers who contradict the Prez after something he said on TV, he cuts off access. This happened to Kelly, McMaster, and no doubt many others who are no longer there. They lose access, they feel they are not valued and there work has no value to the president, and they leave.
I don't think republicans understand how serious this is to our national security, in an ever shrinking intel officer pool
I understand that the knee jerk reaction by right wingers will be, well, not even to read it or gloss over it, and say, "TDS, jobs are up, this is not important".
That, too, is alarming. It would be like you are standing on the Titanic, and someone from the boiler room comes up and shouts "Hull has been breached, waters coming ini", and you brush your lapel with your fingers, and think, please don't bore me with this, the food is delicious, and the music is lovely."
Well, history's record of such consequences is more than well known.
It's like he doesn't care, he's got his way of thinking and that is that. He doesn't grasp the danger he is to the national security of the United States, for only "he can fix it", and "he knows more than the generals" , and " intel told Bush there were weapons of mass destruction and bush should go to war (therefore they are wrong all the time)
Well, I hate to tell you, Mr. Trump, that line about WND and the intel report that supposedly led to Bush's decision to go to war didn't actually say that, not by any stretch of the imagination. No matter, you wouldn't read it, anyway.
,
Then you're just as lost as I thought you were.
Omitting history for your own benefit... seems to be a constant thing with you Tangmo.
Many Democrats and liberals are throwing a hissy fit that President Trump does not go to war against Russia in Syria. It appears there is no war the Democratic Party does not want - except against their financial backer - China. They want the USA to surrender to China.
Denial to deflection to error.
There's nothing constructive or positive coming from the Right.
It's always focus on the enemy because you have nothing of merit to present or promote.
And now you guys are back on your heels.
I don't recall him ever doing that, without the other side doing it first. So either you're omitting that he and his supporters have been getting attacked since before the election finished, or you're excusing it.
Which is it?
Well, Trump is the guy who encouraged his faithful to violence against someone who disagreed with him. But I guess that guy started it. Everything is liberals' fault.
I'm going to bet that you're talking that completely out of context.
So why don't you go and cite me the instance in which he was speaking in that way and then we can continue from there.
I would actually have to be on my heels for once Tangmo. A state that I'm glad to say that you've never been able to push me to.
However, seeing as I have you stuck repeating the same canned lines over and over. It's obvious who here has no real place to go.
Don't worry though. I'm going to save you the embarrassment and give you an out this time.
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