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Would, homosexuality ever manifest without any knowledge of homosexuality?
Would homophobia likewise, ever manifest if there were never any reason to find disgust, or contempt for it in society?
This can be demonstrated even further by looking at the animal kingdom where gay behavior has been seen in hundreds of individual species that have NO understanding of such artificial ideas as human sexuality.Yes. I had a predominate sexual attraction to other boys long before I ever masturbated or knew there was such a thing as homosexuality.
How would any opinion be innate? Suppose you really liked strawberry ice cream. You certainly didn't like it until tasting it. Are a person's musical tastes innate? How about the type of clothes they like to wear? Prejudice is exactly this same kind of opinion, and unless one is innate, why would the other be? Homophobia, racism, sexism, or any other kind of behavior is learned from one's environment.
Phobia: 1. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
It's a term invented by the "gay-rights" [sic] movement, an oxymoron in itself.
Incredibly uninformed. The term was initially used by psychologists to describe a fear heterosexuals had that other people thought they were homosexual. Hence the "phobia". Another psychologist, Kenneth T. Smith used the term in 1971 to argue a general fear of homosexuals as characterized by irrational animosity. It has nothing to do with the gay rights movement, but don't let the facts get in the way of your ranting.
Detest, avoid, condemn, yes, but to have an abnormal and irrational fear noting deviant sexual behavior is some sort of phobia? Absolutely not! It's a term invented by the "gay-rights" [sic] movement, an oxymoron in itself. In my state, just 10 years ago (before the black robed tyrants un-Constitutionally intervened upon Texas law), sodomy was a criminal offense.
You're obviously a Kinsey proponent...
...where traditional psychiatry had always diagnosed homosexuality as a mental disorder,
Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation, it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function produced by certain arrest of sexual development. Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest among them (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc.). It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime, and cruelty too. If you do not believe me, read the books of Havelock Ellis.
never mind the Bible calling it an abomination.
Of course Kinsey has now been exposed as a pedophile (among other deviancy) by examination of his own research. Is this something you espouse as well?
The term "homosexual" was first termed by psychologists to describe a "sexual perversion" not a disorder.
Sorry, "homosexual" is the sugar coated term originated from the Genesis 10:19 account of Sodom.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (King James Version)
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New King James Version)
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Timothy 1:9-10 (King James Version)
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1 Timothy 1:9-10 (New King James Version)
knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,
Furthermore, the sin of Sodom was not sexual perversion but inhospitably. At least that is the Jewish interpretation and the Old Testament is their book. Ironically, social conservative Christians use the Islamic interpretation of the story of Sodom to argue that the city was punished for homosexuality.
Once again you are terribly uniformed. The word "homosexual" has only existed since the 1890s.
Sorry, "homosexual" is the sugar coated term originated from the Genesis 10:19 account of Sodom.
Isn't it amazing that renowned archeological scientists world wide consider the Bible the most accurate historic book known to man, yet proscribes it's doctrine in the same breath?
Sorry, you missed my point. I did not intend to relate specific word origins directly from the Hebrew text. It was merely an historical parallel for sodomy, which is why I inserted the scriptural reference. You're bent on superfluous details trying to justify deviant behavior. That doesn't fly with common sense, nor the laws of nature where your quest is motivated in the attempt to overturn 5000 years of history.
Actually, homosexuality has been prevalant throughout most of human history and through different cultures. It wasn't until the adoption of Christianity by the Romans that laws restricting the practice came into existance. In fact, same sex marriage had existed in Rome prior to the adoptoin of Christianity and specific laws had to be created to ban it. Most of the laws across the world against homosexuality were largely a result of Western influence through colonialism. As far as the "laws of nature" homoexuality is observable in hundreds of species of animals, but I'm not one to get my morals based on what is natural.
There is no morality which dictates the sexual conduct of consenting adults.
God shall send them strong delusion - For this very cause, that they would not receive the love of the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness, therefore God permits strong delusion to occupy their minds; so that they believe a lie rather than the truth, prefer false apostles and their erroneous doctrines to the pure truths of the Gospel, brought to them by the well-accredited messengers of God; being ever ready to receive any false Messiah, while they systematically and virulently reject the true one.
There is no danger in homosexuality. There is nothing to be afraid of. The fear is irrational.
Webster’s dictionary defines danger as “exposure or liability to injury, pain, or loss,” a synonym of dangerous is “risky.” While terrorism in America has killed a little over 3,000 people in the continental 48 states in the last 15 years, homosexual behavior has killed over 100,000.
While Demography magazine has a high-side estimate that the percentage of Americans who are homosexual is only 4 percent, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control estimates that 60 percent of HIV cases are caused by homosexual behavior. This means that of the 16,000 AIDS deaths per year in America (per The Sunday Times), at least 144,000 people were killed because of homosexual relations in the same 15 year period.
Forty-three percent of white male homosexuals have had sex with 500 or more partners and 28 percent have had one thousand or more sex partners (Bell and Weinberg). Because of this, the rate of infection from various sexually transmitted diseases is huge, such as gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, herpes, and HPV.
For example, Dr. Andrew Grulich reported HPV infects over 90 percent of HIV-positive homosexual men and 65 percent of HIV-negative homosexual men.
Wow! The 7th Commandment is most assuredly oblivious to you!
An important part of one's studies would include learning to identify and use proper, objective, unbiased, and scientifically accurate sources. I have to give you an F on this. Perhaps if you'd attended a good secular university...
You also haven't done your studies:
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