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Are Atheists Correct?

About the afterlife, that it's finished at death.

If one went into the Second Death, wouldn't this be true?
 
The ironic thing is when atheists die they might realize they were wrong...but they'll never receive the vindication if they are right.
 
Exquisitor said:
Are Atheists Correct?

About the afterlife, that it's finished at death.

If one went into the Second Death, wouldn't this be true?
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Sure they are. Just ask them and they'll tell you.
 
DrewPaul said:
The ironic thing is when atheists die they might realize they were wrong...but they'll never receive the vindication if they are right.
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The ironic thing is that theists, having spent their lives hoping for a positive “afterlife”, won’t know that they were wrong—because they will be dead. And they’ll never receive the vindication because they were wrong all along.
 
DrewPaul said:
The ironic thing is when atheists die they might realize they were wrong...but they'll never receive the vindication if they are right.
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I'd be happy to be wrong. That way I could have a little chat with this "god" thing. He/she has a lot of explaining to do.
 
Lutherf said:
Sure they are. Just ask them and they'll tell you.
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This is true. I'm an atheist and I am correct about everything. Idk about those other atheists though. Some of them disagree with me and therefore cannot be correct.
 
DrewPaul said:
The ironic thing is when atheists die they might realize they were wrong...but they'll never receive the vindication if they are right.
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Atheists live their lives without the confusion caused by God-belief and without any worry about going to hell.

That's their payoff.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
This is true. I'm an atheist and I am correct about everything. Idk about those other atheists though. Some of them disagree with me and therefore cannot be correct.
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That's the beauty of Relativism. You can ALL be correct!
 
Exquisitor said:
Are Atheists Correct?

About the afterlife, that it's finished at death.

If one went into the Second Death, wouldn't this be true?
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If one dies and Jehovah does not see fit to resurrect that person, then yes, he dies the 2nd death...it's permanent/everlasting...
 
Elora said:
If one dies and Jehovah does not see fit to resurrect that person, then yes, he dies the 2nd death...it's permanent/everlasting...
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...second death?
 
Nomad4Ever said:
...second death?
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Second Death. “The lake of fire” into which death, Hades, the symbolic “wild beast” and “the false prophet,” Satan, his demons, and the persistent practicers of wickedness on earth are cast is shown to mean “the second death.” (Re 20:10, 14, 15; 21:8; Mt 25:41) Initially death resulted from and was passed on to mankind as a result of Adam’s transgression; hence “the second death” must be distinct from this inherited death. It is evident from the cited texts that there is no release possible from “the second death.” The situation of those in “the second death” corresponds to the outcome warned of in such texts as Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26, 27; and Matthew 12:32. On the other hand, those represented as gaining “the crown of life” and having part in “the first resurrection” are free from any possibility of harm by the second death. (Re 2:10, 11) These, who are to reign with Christ, receive immortality (deathlessness) and incorruption and hence are beyond the “authority” of the second death.—1Co 15:50-54; Re 20:6; compare Joh 8:51.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001136
 
Exquisitor said:
Are Atheists Correct?

About the afterlife, that it's finished at death.

If one went into the Second Death, wouldn't this be true?
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Without getting into religionism, I don't believe in afterlife. I do believe in eternal life, in different forms. I have never heard of the Second Death.

After we transition from our current material form we assume a spiritual form and eventually most of us return to material form. In that sense then, we "reincarnate".
 
AmbiguousGuy said:
Works the same with Absolutism.
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Not really. Absolutism refers, generally, to a political system rather than a philosophical or theological understanding. Perhaps you're thinking of "Deism" but, if so, that's pretty much the opposite of Relativism.
 
Elora said:
Second Death. “The lake of fire” into which death, Hades, the symbolic “wild beast” and “the false prophet,” Satan, his demons, and the persistent practicers of wickedness on earth are cast is shown to mean “the second death.” (Re 20:10, 14, 15; 21:8; Mt 25:41) Initially death resulted from and was passed on to mankind as a result of Adam’s transgression; hence “the second death” must be distinct from this inherited death. It is evident from the cited texts that there is no release possible from “the second death.” The situation of those in “the second death” corresponds to the outcome warned of in such texts as Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26, 27; and Matthew 12:32. On the other hand, those represented as gaining “the crown of life” and having part in “the first resurrection” are free from any possibility of harm by the second death. (Re 2:10, 11) These, who are to reign with Christ, receive immortality (deathlessness) and incorruption and hence are beyond the “authority” of the second death.—1Co 15:50-54; Re 20:6; compare Joh 8:51.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001136
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This is what happens when people start thinking that God writes books.
 
Lutherf said:
Not really. Absolutism refers, generally, to a political system rather than a philosophical or theological understanding. Perhaps you're thinking of "Deism" but, if so, that's pretty much the opposite of Relativism.
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Whatever you want to call it, believers in absolute morality are in exactly the same spot as those who believe in moral relativism.

Each person has to make his own decisions about right and wrong.
 
Of course we are correct :). (Somewhat kidding) that just makes our one life that much more valuable.
 
AmbiguousGuy said:
Whatever you want to call it, believers in absolute morality are in exactly the same spot as those who believe in moral relativism.

Each person has to make his own decisions about right and wrong.
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Just because everyone makes their own decisions doesn't mean that those choices are in accordance with the Truth. One is free to make as many wrong decisions as they see fit.
 
Exquisitor said:
Are Atheists Correct?

About the afterlife, that it's finished at death.

If one went into the Second Death, wouldn't this be true?
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Theists seem convinced they're correct about there being an afterlife and sometimes even try to convince others its a fact.
 
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