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Parker_Chess

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I've done far too many bad things. And burned too many bridges. I don't even try to live a Christian life. I never repent or say sorry. Hell is appropriate punishment for my actions.
 
I have religious OCD, so this is one of my biggest fears. I have also considered the possibility that rather than going to hell, unrepented sinners' souls are annihilated like the Seventh-day Adventists preach, but I'm not sure if that's true or not. On the bright side, if I go to hell, I can hang out with Barry Goldwater.
 
Interesting thread. I will be curious to see where it goes.

I was raised in my mother's Southern Baptist church, where hell was a frequent topic. Summers there were esp. interesting because they would do revival weeks and invariably bring in fire and brimstone preachers who thundered on about malicious demons and eternal torture and pain and darkness and damnation and wailing and the gnashing of teeth.

I dropped out of organized religion as a teen, and it took a long time to deprogram from the fear and anxiety that sort of preaching brought on. I used to despair that i wasn't truly saved, or I had somehow voided that salvation by the inevitable sinning, or (and this was the worst) that I had committed the "unpardonable sin" and was therefore irrevocably damned. Maturity and experience allowed for a more nuanced understanding of religion and theology as human inventions (and therefore flawed). I am no longer held in fear of a "Jack Chick" conception of hell - it falls under the umbrella of theodicy to me. The concept of Hell and what supposedly goes on there is outside the boundaries of an all loving, all powerful god. Either some Christian denominations are mistaken in putting justice and wrath above Christ's message of forgiveness and goodness, or the divine is not truly all loving and/or all powerful and therefore one wonders if it is worthy of adoration.
 
Logician Man said:
It gets even "brighter". Those that go to hell will also get to hang out with God because God is omnipresent (everywhere).
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I thought most Christians consider hell to be the absence of God. Wouldn't God being in hell defeat the purpose of heaven?
 
Parker_Chess said:
I've done far too many bad things. And burned too many bridges.
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all of us have Parker

for all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God, from Romans 3

Parker_Chess said:
I don't even try to live a Christian life.
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many don't, in fact most don't.

Jesus said the 'way is narrow that leads to Eternal Life, and few there be that find it'.

Parker, you can be the few that find it.

Parker_Chess said:
I never repent or say sorry. Hell is appropriate punishment for my actions.
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we all deserve hell, but God doesn't want you to go there. he wants you in heaven.

as a teenager, i talked to the minister about this. God convicted me of my sin and God was calling me to change and follow Jesus.

so i did.

the preacher showed me John 6:47 'all that the Father giveth me shall come to me, and him that cometh to me I shall in no wise cast out'

that night i believed and God gave me peace.

so i repent daily and confess sin direct to God; then i asked to be filled with God's Spirit of love joy peace et al.

he does, and begin my day. makes a difference for even the Chiefest of Sinners as the Apostle Paul said. he killed Christians until God stopped him one day and he repented.

so can you.

be honest with God concerning your lack of faith et al. start there.

stay at it every day until you get peace. in time you will.

look for CR (Celebrate Recovery) in your community; basically a fellowship of christians like you that have 'hurts habits and hang ups'

i have gone there for about 4 years and it makes a difference. and it is free, we go through 12 steps of Recovery from whatever. ours has dinner every week, so i attend the dinner and fellowship. on Sunday i find a good church and worship; i attend quite a few churches, some better than others.

then i read a book on a Seminary level: 'Life in the Son' by Shank. made a difference in my understanding of God and what we desperately need to know.

enjoy peace and an Eternity in heaven.

doesn't matter what others do or fail to do; you do you.

blessings, many are Praying for you. i will

@tosca1
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Lycanthrope said:
Interesting thread. I will be curious to see where it goes.

I was raised in my mother's Southern Baptist church, where hell was a frequent topic. Summers there were esp. interesting because they would do revival weeks and invariably bring in fire and brimstone preachers who thundered on about malicious demons and eternal torture and pain and darkness and damnation and wailing and the gnashing of teeth.

I dropped out of organized religion as a teen, and it took a long time to deprogram from the fear and anxiety that sort of preaching brought on. I used to despair that i wasn't truly saved, or I had somehow voided that salvation by the inevitable sinning, or (and this was the worst) that I had committed the "unpardonable sin" and was therefore irrevocably damned. Maturity and experience allowed for a more nuanced understanding of religion and theology as human inventions (and therefore flawed). I am no longer held in fear of a "Jack Chick" conception of hell - it falls under the umbrella of theodicy to me. The concept of Hell and what supposedly goes on there is outside the boundaries of an all loving, all powerful god. Either some Christian denominations are mistaken in putting justice and wrath above Christ's message of forgiveness and goodness, or the divine is not truly all loving and/or all powerful and therefore one wonders if it is worthy of adoration.
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We lived the same life! Southern Baptist high school. Guest preachers affiliated with Bob Jones University preached during chapel every Wednesday. No rock music, no dancing, no nothing. Fire and Brimstone. Always a negative message. We were all going to Hell unless we repented right there on the spot.

If you are still religious I'm happy for you. Not me. I've moved beyond it.
 
Logician Man said:
It gets even "brighter". Those that go to hell will also get to hang out with Almighty God because Almighty God is omnipresent (everywhere).
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Logic there is hope for you too my friend.

many are praying for you; i dont care how old you are or what yur story is. God is there and i care.

forget debating this forum concerning things, nobody wins anything here anyway.

what you do win in Life is faith and New Life with Jesus. and we all can regardless of back ground or what our past is about.

God is calling you: answer the Phone.


blessings. always.

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lolbert said:
I thought most Christians consider hell to be the absence of God. Wouldn't God being in hell defeat the purpose of heaven?
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Sounds like a logical contradiction. If god is omnipresent, then how can God not be in hell? God is already an absentee landlord or parent here. So I imagine no god in hell wouldn't be any different than it is now.
 
dseag2 said:
We lived the same life! Southern Baptist high school. Guest preachers affiliated with Bob Jones University preached during chapel every Wednesday. No rock music, no dancing, no nothing. Fire and Brimstone. Always a negative message. We were all going to Hell unless we repented right there on the spot.
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dseag2 said:
If you are still religious I'm happy for you. Not me. I've moved beyond it.
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move back while you still can.

there is no 'moving beyond it'. we still will discuss things with God; prep now and find New Life.

thank me later on Streets of Gold; bypass the Toaster oven.........you can do that and you must.


blessings.
 
dseag2 said:
We lived the same life! Southern Baptist high school. Guest preachers affiliated with Bob Jones University preached during chapel every Wednesday. No rock music, no dancing, no nothing. Fire and Brimstone. Always a negative message. We were all going to Hell unless we repented right there on the spot.

If you are still religious I'm happy for you. Not me. I've moved beyond it.
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Do they just hate fun?
 
lolbert said:
I thought most Christians consider hell to be the absence of God. Wouldn't God being in hell defeat the purpose of heaven?
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Nice catch, sir. Now, maybe a nice Christian theist will come along and explain the contradiction in Christian theology claiming that God is both omnipresent (everywhere), but God is absent from hell, which of course negates the claim of an omnipresent God.
 
The mere fact that you are still walking on this earth tells me God has plans for you. Your only sin is you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your savior. Don't trivialize nor diminish your existence. When you understand your true role in life, the hardships and pain you've experienced will provide a lens to see the world's gritty underbelly with crystal clarity.
 
Gordy327 said:
Sounds like a logical contradiction. If god is omnipresent, then how can God not be in hell? God is already an absentee landlord or parent here. So I imagine no god in hell wouldn't be any different than it is now.
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Gordy, there is no mercy in hell and no wild parties. you don't want to be in hell regardless of whoever is there; hell is devoid of hope ever, just pain.

God wants you too my friend, more than you want God.

this earth offers so little compared with Eternal Life, no contest.

i don't know you Gordy, but God does. tell him what you think and ask for Evidence..........lots of it.

when you get yur Evidence, report back. i wanna know.


blessings forever...............and ever.


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Parker_Chess said:
I've done far too many bad things. And burned too many bridges. I don't even try to live a Christian life. I never repent or say sorry. Hell is appropriate punishment for my actions.
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Hell is just a silly fear tactic theists use to emotionally manipulate one into belief or obedience. Satan is the Boogeyman for adults.
 
Gordy327 said:
Hell is just a silly fear tactic theists use to emotionally manipulate one into belief or obedience. Satan is the Boogeyman for adults.
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fear is a good thing if it motivates you to do the Right Thing


and you can. and then reap the Rewards, lots of them.

blessings Gordy: forever.

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Gordy327 said:
Do they just hate fun?
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we all like fun.

mine lasts forever.

do you think we are different than you Gordy?

we are not, we have Hope forever...........that is our difference.

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dseag2 said:
We lived the same life! Southern Baptist high school. Guest preachers affiliated with Bob Jones University preached during chapel every Wednesday. No rock music, no dancing, no nothing. Fire and Brimstone. Always a negative message. We were all going to Hell unless we repented right there on the spot.

If you are still religious I'm happy for you. Not me. I've moved beyond it.
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I identify as agnostic these days. If I'm pressed I'll say I do not believe in the divine, but I choose to have faith anyway. As paradoxical as it might sound, it feels like the most honest answer for such a complex question.
 
dmpi said:
The mere fact that you are still walking on this earth tells me God has plans for you. Your only sin is you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your savior. Don't trivialize nor diminish your existence. When you understand your true role in life, the hardships and pain you've experienced will provide a lens to see the world's gritty underbelly with crystal clarity.
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amen dm

the first step is to recognize yur spiritual condition.

we are helpless and need Salvation............pursue that.

please don't stay where you are, find The Plan and find Salvation
 
Lycanthrope said:
I identify as agnostic these days. If I'm pressed I'll say I do not believe in the divine, but I choose to have faith anyway. As paradoxical as it might sound, it feels like the most honest answer for such a complex question.
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amen that is a start.

my father was an atheist and asked God if he was real; so God picked up on that and convinced him of who God was.

we all go thru the same thing; we must pursue God and he will respond.

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