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Any predictions about when the house goes back into session tomorrow, Friday, October 6 at 10:00 am ET.

Minerva

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I predict there will be many references made about Gaetz and how his tribe has really caused some issues.
At the end of the day there will not be a new SoH.
 
Congress better get their act together. The clock is ticking on the 45 day CR.
 
The official House website has the time and date I have shared posted. Maybe they have not updated it?

live.house.gov, U.S. House of Representatives

Your dashboard for legislative activity. Watch the U.S. House of Representatives live and follow all the action on any device.
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You are assuming that the GOP House is competent enough to read a calendar and clock. We know from video evidence that Jordan at least developed a distaste for clock type functions at a recent hearing and even left the room when one was displayed to him.

The first order of business will be to make at least a plan for electing a new Speaker. I can't see Jordan getting enough support, and he shouldn't get it because he is already out of his depth just trying to lead a committee. Scalise I assume has more possibility of getting over the line, but he may still be too maga for some voters. Don't know much about him though. Expect the Dems to block vote against any Republican nominee and leave the R;s to sort out their own problems.
 
Like I said, I very well have missed an announcement, but everything I read indicated that McHenry sent everyone home until next Tuesday. See this for an example of this reporting:

thehill.com

Gaetz knocks Speaker pro tem for sending lawmakers home to ‘cry for a week’

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) is already taking aim at Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry (R-N.C), saying that he should not send lawmakers home for the next week. “I do have to offer some pretty…
thehill.com thehill.com
 
Minerva said:
The official House website has the time and date I have shared posted. Maybe they have not updated it?

live.house.gov, U.S. House of Representatives

Your dashboard for legislative activity. Watch the U.S. House of Representatives live and follow all the action on any device.
live.house.gov live.house.gov
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They can meet but they can't do much. Not to worry, They weren't too busy as it turns out-

"Graves blasted Rep. Matt Gaetz, saying he undermined conservative goals and stripped powers from the Republican office.

“You can’t offer subpoenas, you can’t go after Hunter Biden, you can’t go after any of the controversies that this administration has carried out,” Graves said."

lailluminator.com

How does a ‘frozen’ U.S. House function without a speaker? Everyone’s got an opinion. • Louisiana Illuminator

The stunning ouster of U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy left multiple questions about how legislative business would proceed.
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The problem is that we've never had a Speakerless House while it's in session. My understanding was that when there is no Speaker, the House is not considered to be in session. So, if that's still true, the House may still meet, but unless and until they pick the next Speaker, the House is out of session.

EDIT: So when McCarthy had his 15 votes, until he won, the House was not technically in session even though they were voting on the Speaker.
 
Juggernaut74 said:
Like I said, I very well have missed an announcement, but everything I read indicated that McHenry sent everyone home until next Tuesday. See this for an example of this reporting:

thehill.com

Gaetz knocks Speaker pro tem for sending lawmakers home to ‘cry for a week’

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) is already taking aim at Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry (R-N.C), saying that he should not send lawmakers home for the next week. “I do have to offer some pretty…
thehill.com thehill.com
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It's a push. The House is out of session until next week, when they will vote on the Speaker. But at no point did McHenry give orders to vacate the House and go home. So what you've been reading and what I'm saying, are both correct from a certain point of view :P
 
Ishm said:
You are assuming that the GOP House is competent enough to read a calendar and clock. We know from video evidence that Jordan at least developed a distaste for clock type functions at a recent hearing and even left the room when one was displayed to him.

The first order of business will be to make at least a plan for electing a new Speaker. I can't see Jordan getting enough support, and he shouldn't get it because he is already out of his depth just trying to lead a committee. Scalise I assume has more possibility of getting over the line, but he may still be too maga for some voters. Don't know much about him though. Expect the Dems to block vote against any Republican nominee and leave the R;s to sort out their own problems.
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If the GOP wants any Democrats to support the nominee they will have to pledge to put the Ukraine aid package up for a vote. I suspect that won't happen.
 
iguanaman said:
If the GOP wants any Democrats to support the nominee they will have to pledge to put the Ukraine aid package up for a vote. I suspect that won't happen.
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Even if the Dems did support an R nominee, what would it achieve? Needing Dem votes to become speaker says that the new speaker doesn't have enough support to get legislation passed. Dems can't/won't start voting for R bills, so we will be straight back to nothing getting passed.

In a weird way, the Dems doing so well in 2020 and leaving the R's with such a slim majority has actually handed power to the extreme maga crazies. If the R's had a larger majority the sane ones may have had more control of their own caucus. Instead we have a handful or crazies with the power to burn the country down to make themselves feel important and obey their lord and master.
 
Ishm said:
Even if the Dems did support an R nominee, what would it achieve? Needing Dem votes to become speaker says that the new speaker doesn't have enough support to get legislation passed. Dems can't/won't start voting for R bills, so we will be straight back to nothing getting passed.

In a weird way, the Dems doing so well in 2020 and leaving the R's with such a slim majority has actually handed power to the extreme maga crazies. If the R's had a larger majority the sane ones may have had more control of their own caucus. Instead we have a handful or crazies with the power to burn the country down to make themselves feel important and obey their lord and master.
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There used to be safeguards in the House to prevent a few bad apples from running the show. McCarthy gave them all up to get their votes so stop blaming the Dems. I know this is herticial to say but the GOP could pass bipartisan bills that are achieved through negotiations. Those bills might even have a chance in the Senate too. Useless bills that will not even be taken up by the Senate is all we will get from bills passed with no Democrat votes.
 
mike2810 said:
Congress better get their act together. The clock is ticking on the 45 day CR.
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As bad as things are getting in this country maybe we need a true shutdown to shack some sense into our politicians. Like many I'd be affected by a shutdown, but I'd survive and hopefully the nation would come out much better off. We need to start with getting our own nation in order, the borders, energy, future of entitlement programs, crime in America and so much more before we continue to give billions away to other nations.
 
iguanaman said:
There used to be safeguards in the House to prevent a few bad apples from running the show. McCarthy gave them all up to get their votes so stop blaming the Dems. I know this is herticial to say but the GOP could pass bipartisan bills that are achieved through negotiations. Those bills might even have a chance in the Senate too. Useless bills that will not even be taken up by the Senate is all we will get from bills passed with no Democrat votes.
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I'm not blaming the Dems for anything. Just noting that them doing much better than expected in 2020 might have had a downside due to the disfunction of the current GOP caucus.
 
It is true mathematically that Democrats could have saved McCarthy. But, socially/politically/one of those reasons, McCarthy didn't give them a reason -to- save him. McCarthy was trashing Democrats and making them out to be the spawn of Satan. For the argument that "Democrats could have saved McCarthy" to be completely true, McCarthy would have to have given the Democrats a reason to save him. He did not and didn't even reach out to them. He neither won friends in the Democratic Party, nor could he influence them, so they had no reason to vote to keep McCarthy. He burned any bridges he might have had with them, and Democrats returned the favor.

EDIT: Changed the post to better reflect what I'm trying to say.
 
I think we all know far more about presidential norms, powers and laws than we did in 2015.
Same with the court and Congress.

MAGA has abused every branch of government which has forced us to learn things we never previously needed to know.

How will it all end?
 
Ishm said:
I'm not blaming the Dems for anything. Just noting that them doing much better than expected in 2020 might have had a downside due to the disfunction of the current GOP caucus.
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Nope
 
noonereal said:
I think we all know far more about presidential norms, powers and laws than we did in 2015.
Same with the court and Congress.

MAGA has abused every branch of government which has forced us to learn things we never previously needed to know.

How will it all end?
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Like McCarthy said - they want to "burn it all down."

And once they've finished burning it all down, they will lose elections if they did enough damage to their own constituents in their districts. (I say districts because this primarily goes on in the House more than anywhere else)
 
Juggernaut74 said:
Like I said, I very well have missed an announcement, but everything I read indicated that McHenry sent everyone home until next Tuesday. See this for an example of this reporting:

thehill.com

Gaetz knocks Speaker pro tem for sending lawmakers home to ‘cry for a week’

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) is already taking aim at Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry (R-N.C), saying that he should not send lawmakers home for the next week. “I do have to offer some pretty…
thehill.com thehill.com
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Maybe Gaetz was the only one they told that next week was when the house meets again. BWAHAHAHAHA....
 
Ishm said:
I'm not blaming the Dems for anything. Just noting that them doing much better than expected in 2020 might have had a downside due to the disfunction of the current GOP caucus.
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I'm not blaming Dems for anything, they couldn't guess the House would collapse like this.

It could be that in the election last year both parties hoped for as many seats as they could get. Neither party predicted or realized how disfunctional the GOP would be until the 15 rounds for McCarthy. Then the debt ceiling, now the budget. The Dems let the Republicans trip over each other.

Or it could be - the Republicans in '22 were the dark cloud under a silver lining.
 
My prediction is that nothing will be accomplished, just like when they actually had a Speaker of the House.
 
Minerva said:
I predict there will be many references made about Gaetz and how his tribe has really caused some issues.
At the end of the day there will not be a new SoH.
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Gaetz's "tribe" tallies a grand total of eight people. How could eight people voting to remove the Speaker cause issues?
 
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