Any Debt Deal Should Be As Dirty as Possible[W:12]

Carjosse said:

Just get rid of the debt ceiling and everyone wins.

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Rocketman said:

It's time to stop spending like there's no tomorrow.
Can anyone other than doctrinaire Democrats and members of his immediate family keep a straight face when President Barack Obama insists that he is “prepared to negotiate on anything” while simultaneously saying that “until we make sure that Congress allows Treasury to pay for things that Congress itself already authorized, we are not going to engage in a series of negotiations”?
Or when Treasury Secretary Jack Lew announces that the government “cannot be put in a position of having to choose which commitments it should meet,” as if picking between, say, paying interest payments to avoid default and buying half a billion dollars worth of useless cargo planes is a contemporary version of Sophie’s Choice.
However much House Republicans may have Mr. Belvedered themselves when it comes to the government shutdown, they are absolutely right to insist that any increase in the amount of money the government can borrow today should be tied to firm commitments to spend less in the future. Think sequester, which promises to cut just somewhere between 1 percent and 2 percent of overall annual spending, on steroids. And the future should be defined as “the day after the debt-limit increase goes into effect.”

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Vern said:

simpleton liberal talking points

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Carjosse said:

Just get rid of the debt ceiling and everyone wins.

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Velvet Elvis said:

I'd like one of you liberals to give me one instance....ONE instance...where we've raised the debt ceiling, and the government DIDN'T jack spending up to that "new" ceiling as fast as possible. If government were a person, they'd be put into rehab for a shopping addiction.

Raising the debt ceiling is FOR jacking up debt. We don't need to keep increasing expenditures. If Lord 0bama and his Imperial Government wants to spend money, I say force them to shut down things that aren't necessary and re-appropriate funds.


Dear Jerk-in-Chief...stop spending money we don't have for things that are only designed to garner votes from the stupid masses who don't see your plots. I'm pretty sure, if Michelle Antoinette told you that you couldn't afford a big-screen TV, she wouldn't expect you to go out and buy an Escalade instead, you simple dolt of a human being.

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Carjosse said:

Well you have to as long as there is a deficit in spending it will keep going up and like I said if you want to limit debt being accumulated in the first place limit the deficit not the accumulated debt because all the debt ceiling is a tool used for political games that terrifies everyone watching. A deficit limit will not damage anything but the debt ceiling is MAD. I don't want world economies to suffer because some Americans decided it would be better to fight and bicker than actually solve the problem.

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Vern said:

Once again a con mindlessly posts a silly con editorial. First, republicans are not threatening to destroy the economy to “spend less”. That was the reason they threatened to destroy the economy 2 years ago. Try hard to remember, they are threatening to destroy the economy to defund Obamacare. Now of course that they are trying to slither away from that position because it was a loser from the start. And of course you will let them.

Second, the idea that the govt can pick and choose from the 80 million bills its gets a month is just another conservative fantasy needed to cover up their anti American agenda. Its not only not feasible its not legal. And what kind of fantasy world do you live in the groups buying T bills will magically think “hey, they’re still paying my interest, give me another 100 billion”

The conservative entertainment complex and republicans count on your gullibility but you don’t have to be totally ridiculous in what you believe. This is from the Inspector General of the Treasury. ( I know I know, you really want to believe the lying conservative editorial)

Prioritization of Payments

Treasury officials stated that Treasury also reviewed the idea of attempting to prioritize the many payments made by the federal government each day. Treasury noted that it makes more than 80 million payments per month, all of which have been authorized and appropriated by Congress. According to a Treasury official, the payments cover a broad spectrum of purposes deemed important by Congress. While Congress enacted these expenditures, it did not prioritize them, nor did it direct the President or the Treasury to pay some expenses and not pay others. As a result, Treasury officials determined that there is no fair or sensible way to pick and choose among the many bills that come due every day. Furthermore, because Congress has never provided guidance to the contrary, Treasury’s systems are designed to make each payment in the order it comes due.

http://www.treasury.gov/about/organ...ebt Limit Response (Final with Signature).pdf

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Velvet Elvis said:

I cant post anything to counter the facts Vern posts so I'll post a juvenile and deflecting response instead of addressing the thread topic..

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Velvet Elvis said:

Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
simpleton liberal talking points

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Shh. Grownups talking.

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Vern said:

see Velvet, I can do that too.

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