Anti-cop ice cream chain sues Seattle over 'significant losses' from BLM autonomous zone they promoted

[The Stars Tremble]

The protestors who created CHOP/CHAZ and the businesses that supported them said they didn't want police. The police obliged them. Very simple.

You don't see that as a failure of policing?

Spattered all around the country are people who don't want policing. They're called criminals. How many criminals have to get together and demand a police free zone, before it's the right decision of police to grant them a police free zone? 20? 50? 200?

Initially I supported CHAZ. I thought it would be an interesting experiment in citizens trying to (non fatally) enforce the law for themselves. But in retrospect, that's just asking for criminals to come in and prey on the neutral residents AND the volunteer militia who never had the powers of police. It did not go well, and yet I think the intentions were good.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

BLM are not peaceful protestors, they are anarchists.

You say "anarchists" like it's a crime. Yet the philosophy of anarchism is more opposed to violence, than our current society based on rule of law (and punishment, which is lifestyle violence.)

An-caps for instance, put much more faith in fines than in imprisonment, to punish harm done by one individual to another. Extremists believe in slavery when fines cannot be paid, but slavery isn't necessarily worse than imprisonment. Less extreme an-caps would just have a register of debtor criminals, allowing future employers to pay the balance of a "fair wage" to the victim of crime. Quite voluntarily of course.

Using "anarchist" as a swear word, just calls into question what kind of state oppression you're OK with.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Initially I supported CHAZ. I thought it would be an interesting experiment in citizens trying to (non fatally) enforce the law for themselves. But in retrospect, that's just asking for criminals to come in and prey on the neutral residents AND the volunteer militia who never had the powers of police. It did not go well, and yet I think the intentions were good.

At least you know enough to admit when you're wrong. Good for you.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

You say "anarchists" like it's a crime.

Anarchy is a state of, essentially, lawlessness.

You're all over the place here. Maybe you should think things through a little more and then try again?

 

[Maidenrules29]

You don't see that as a failure of policing?

And if the police would have crossed over into the protestors' little CHAZ zone to do some policing, and perhaps got some resistance like we know they would have, (milkshakes, rocks, molotovs, destroyed police cars...) then the police would have had to respond and it would have been a clusterfu*k and you know it.