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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens[W:165; 667]

You can couch yours (and his) comments however you like. The fact is he is a repugnant asshole that used a gathering of high school students and a seminar AGAINST bullying to launch an idiotic attack against...oh yeah...KIDS...kids he knows absolutely nothing about, and when they didnt sit there and take it like good subservient little children he called them pansies (another classic ploy...and people wonder why OTHERS are quick to attack some folks manhood. Ah...but when it is someone like him its OK). And you and others support it. Cut from the same clothe. How pathetic is that?
 
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That is precisely what he did...and even HE has acknowledged he was wrong...thats the hilarious part of all the homosexuals and liberals defending this guy...when he himself apologized for his abhorrent behavior....its classic...we are never wrong syndrome and we will badger you until you acknowledge it...well good luck with that with a bigotted homophobe like me.. it will be fun
 

Fixed that for you.

Couple of things:

If you are going to learn to be a journalist you must learn to walk among controversy and unpleasant things while not being a part of it. You might refer to it as having a thick skin. I would refer to it as learning to be objective. No, it isn't easy. Clearly you have not been able to master that skill. One of the cardinal sins of journalism for a journalist is to become the story rather that to report the story. The students in question didn't report the controversy they became a major part of it. That's not at all good.

These are big lessons for those students to learn. It was a huge teaching moment and a good one. Most teaching moments are uncomfortable, wouldn't you agree. For the students who learned as a result of Savage presentation and the childish actions of the speaker and some of the student it was a valuable day. For students who are unable to remain objective, for students who don't have the ability to see the bigger picture, for students devoid of deductive reasoning skills, it may have been a big day as well. Hopefully, those students will give up their silly notions of becoming journalists.
 

Oooh somebody is getting a bit upset for being called over bigotry.

Dan Savage did apologise for using one phrase "pansy-assed". He did not apologise for noting the hypocrisy of xians and calling it "bull****". He did not "launch an idiotic attack against ... KIDS". To believe that he did is a fine example of just what his speech was about. Other video clips show that his speech was well received by the majority of students attending.

It has been noted previously that the walkout looked "pre-planned". Others have denied this was possible because nobody knew what his speech would say prior to its beginning but as Savage is a well-known and outspoken gay rights advocate, the walkout could have been planned without regard to his actual words.
 

I think it was a tremendous learning opportunity. Tremendous. Kudos to the people who had the balls to let it play out. Hopefully, students and teachers and families will be talking about all facets of the event for weeks and weeks. That's real learning! Get them fired up, encourage them to support their positions with something other than emotions. A good teacher and parent will listen to their kids and then ask, "Why?"
"Why do you say that?"
"Where is your proof?"
"How would you have have handled it?" "Why"
"Would your way have been more effective?"
"How do you define 'more effective' in this instance?"
"How would you measure desired outcomes?"
"Are your personal feelings important to the story?" "Why?" "Why not?"
"List all the issues you see as a result of the event and reaction to it?"
"List all the opportunities that resulted from the event and the reactions to it?"
"What are the real stories here?"

This list could go on for days. What a rich lesson! What golden moment!
 
Upset? of course not. Im pointing out that the asshole used a venue on bullying to attack a bunch of high school kids (using derogatory effiminate comments...another classic) and a bunch of like minded bitter angry hate filled little trolls are supporting his action.
 
What's sad.... is all the outrage over Dan Savages words towards kids but very little over the harsh, belittling words directed at gays constantly. Why? Because they're "filtered through Jesus" and that somehow makes it okay. I wonder how many of these kids Dan Savage spoke to will commit suicide because of what he said....
 
Well now...see? If the asshole hadnt used a forum AGAINST bullying to launch an attack against people he knows nothing about and if the mindless little trolls didnt similarly launch their own little bigoted attacks on people they truly know nothing about then the topic of bullying could have been effectively addressed. But that wasnt the assholes intent, now was it. And it remains pathetic that people still excuse and justify his actions because some gay kids get harassed by others that happen to be 'Christian' and of COURSE thats just happening everywhere. Thats lie #2. The main reason for your shrill little attacks on "Christians" is the same as every other person here...because many Christians can be accepting, loving, tolerant, supportive and yet still disagree with gay marriage. And at the end of the day...that is ALL this whole thing is about.
 


Clearly you have comprehension issues...Or perhaps its your psychotic anger problem that's preventing understanding ...several times Ive stated that I dont care if people are against gays...when they allow those personal feelings to interfere with legislation, then I have a problem with it.

Again, I wonder how many of those kids will commit suicide because of what Dan said?

And if you're a "christian" you're a LOUSY example of one. Go look in the mirror the next time you flip out over someone having an issue with Christianity. You make FOOL of Jesus.
 
Yep...I sure have some work to do...but my 'comprehension' is spot on. And dont worry...you are pretty easily 'understood'. But hey...as soon as you and the rest of your vewy vewy angwy liberal brethren launch your daily diatribes against democrats and all the other groups that oppose gay marriage you might begin to have the first shred of credibility and not simply be a bunch of mindless partisan hypocrites.
 

I never said the words "conservative" or "republican" at all....you're insane. Go pray.
 
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I never said the words "conservative" or "republican" at all....you're insane. Go pray.
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Yes...you do...in your every word, post, and thread. Its who you are. Truth is a bitch, aint it.
 
Flippinfunky said:
I never said if Dan was wrong or right, I said he attacked the hypocrisy, that he didn't bully anyone.
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It being "hypocrisy" is an opinion. You, or he, claiming that a person's beleifs are "hypocricy" is bullying. Calling them "pansy-assed" for simply getting up and leaving, is bullying (not to mention arrogant).


This thread is about a specific incident, and it seems you are hijacking it to spout an anti-Christian message. Perhaps you could just focus on the issue rather than ridiculing a people's views.
 
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My point being - how does one person "bully" a hundred people?
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By taking advantage of a captive audience to preach an anti-Christian message, and verbally abusing children.
 

Obviously you're not reading some of the 'reliably liberal' blogs because you would find lots of attacks against Dems - including the President - for not doing enough in the fight over gay marriage.

Criticism mounts over Obama punt on gay Exec Order. NYT calls it "cynical hedge"

Stop playing it cute on gay rights

Obama's Gay Rights Evolution Is on Hold
 


Maybe that has something to do with the point of the thread...which is Dan Savage and this incident. Is it your opinion that unless a kid commits suicide as the result of an action that that action was not bullying?
 
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Yes...you do...in your every word, post, and thread. Its who you are. Truth is a bitch, aint it.
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Repost them then. What does Jesus say about Liars? Not bearing false witness is a commandment, yes? See, you're a LOUSY example of a Christian

The ONLY time I said the word "Conservative" is when I said "I dont care if they're a liberal Christian or conservative Christian"

YOU are the one making this about Conservatives and Republicans.... bigotry knows NO political party. So go back and find the posts where I say "conservative" and "republican", other than the one I quoted myself saying above, and repost them. And then, go pray and ask God to help you with your lying problem
 
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By taking advantage of a captive audience to preach an anti-Christian message, and verbally abusing children.
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Really an "anti-Christian message" or simply one calling out SOME who call themselves Christian for not accepting the reality of the words found in their holy text?

"verbally abusing children", is a nice use of words. When some teenagers are offended by the speech of a gay-rights advocate, they are "children". If a teenager commits a crime, they are often charged as "adults". So which is it? Where is the line between 'child' and adult?
 
Every post you make is about liberals and conservatives. Its who you are. Guess you cant help it...can you.
 
VanceMack said:
Every post you make is about liberals and conservatives. Its who you are. Guess you cant help it...can you.
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Wait, first you said every post I say Conservative and Republican, now you're saying every post I say Liberals and Conservative...stop lying so much, dude...clearly you cant remember what you're saying.

I'm done having this conversation with you.... you like being a drama wh*re apparently. Really, if I were you, I'd spend less time on the internet and more time fostering my relationship with Christ...clearly you need to. Now, have a wonderful day! :2wave:
 
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So THATS what you heard in his words? :lamo

And the whole 'pansy' comment. Hey...its just good fun to verbally attack people (and the derogatory effeminate reference...VERY nice) because they dare to disagree with you. THATS not bullying.

Ive said it before...I'm sure I will again....you guys are a crack up!
 
Yep...theres no doubt...Im not your perfect turn the other cheek 'Christian' and no doubt I have things to work on. Why...I can be just as big an asshole as you.

How quick are you to defend 'this guy'...yes...even in this thread...

"Q: Define marriage. A: I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman... Q: Would you support a constitutional amendment with that definition? A: No I would not. Because historically we have defined marriage in our constitution, it's been a matter of state law."

"I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. But I also agree with most Americans, including Vice President Cheney and over 2,000 religious leaders of all different beliefs, that decisions about marriage should be left to the states as they always have been." And isnt that what those states are doing? Citizens of the state reinforcing EXISTING law prohibiting gay marriage?

So...ya just HATES that POS bigot...right?
 
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Hey, I've said if I'd been there I'd have heckled the hell out of the guy. But these were school kids. This was a supposed talk about bullying. I guess the "speaker" didn't get the memo he wasn't there "to bully" but speak against bullying.


So you're telling me this "speaker" knew these kids were Christian, yes? But IYO it's okay to bully Christian kids because they're "hypocrites when they attack gays and ignore other commandments. Funny but I don't think the article mentioned these school kids were pro or anti gay. Must have missed it, but since you read it can you post that snippet?
 



I love it when folks mount their high horses when it come to the Catholic priests abusing children. But when it's their man abusing children, hell they're for hanging the kids out to dry. It's good to know where you stand. Thanks.
 
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