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Your claim about Shaviv and Koch is about nothing but speaker fees.
Are you actually unable to comprehend English?
Uh... Yeah, no, that's not how it works.
Environmentalism doesn't have to be partisan; in fact, when the ball first got rolling in the early 70s, it was bipartisan. It was quite successful as well, especially with reining in some of the more obvious and egregious forms of pollution, especially air pollution.
There's a lot we can do, mostly focusing on curtailing emissions of greenhouse gases. There are plenty of ways that's compatible with conservatism, ranging from carbon trading plans, to encouraging energy independence, to the increasing monetization of renewable power. We've already taken some small steps that have not destroyed the entire nation, such as popularizing LED bulbs, adopting hybrid vehicles, raising gas mileage standards, and increasing the use of lower-emission fuels (notably natural gas).
Texas -- hardly a bleeding-heart-liberal state -- produces more power from wind than any other state, and some believe that the reduced regulation on the grid facilitated that growth. That's straight-up capitalism.
Eventually enough melt, desalinization and rising temperatures will disrupt ocean currents, which will affect prevailing winds, and we will sink into another prolonged ice age.
Not necessarily.
Between land use changes, soot, and greenhouse gasses, we may have change the bar for the tripping point to an ice age. It's possible the earth will never see one again, unless we restore it to post industrialization.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-tonnes-of-ice-raise-sea-levels-idUSKBN1J92IE
OSLO (Reuters) - An accelerating thaw of Antarctica has pushed up world sea levels by almost a centimeter since the early 1990s in a risk for coasts from Pacific islands to Florida, an international team of scientists said on Thursday.
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Trump denies the effects of climate change but asked permission to build a sea wall at one of his gold courses in Scotland or Ireland to mitigate damage from rising water caused by climate change. Hypocrite.
Will be doing flood checks due to rising sea levels along the coast this weekend. Should the government mandate house lifejackets?
Roughly 40% of the world's population live in coastal areas. It's not just the rich who are affected.
So on that basis, we should continue polluting? That doesn't add up.
Not necessarily.
Between land use changes, soot, and greenhouse gasses, we may have change the bar for the tripping point to an ice age. It's possible the earth will never see one again, unless we restore it to post industrialization.
'kay
There is no evidence that ice ages are caused by any changes in prevailing winds.
Slowing winds -- which are a result of global temperatures rising -- will not reduce global temperatures. It does often push Arctic air further south, but that doesn't cause an "ice age," and it doesn't reduce global temperatures. What it does is occasionally inflict damaging cold snaps on northern latitudes.
Those same changes to winds (particularly the Jet Stream) can result in warmer temperatures as far north as Alaska, and other parts of the western US. This can result in droughts and heat waves.
CO2 emissions are a type of pollution.
Wow, sarcasm. So clever
Some of us are in fact trying to make positive change. While there is still a ways to go, and some American elected officials are unconscionably trying to make things worse, there is actually a lot of opportunity for improvement.
No one is saying "we can fix it instantly." However, the faster we get working on it, the more damage we can mitigate. And of course, the longer we delay, the more harm will result.
I guess I've run into some climate experts and am thus out of my league.
Whatever the case, there seems to be a sense of futility in writing rules for just our nation that involve intentionally shunning cheap energy with the idea that the entire planet's climate effects can even be substantially slowed, let alone stopped, let alone reversed.
Whatever the case, there seems to be a sense of futility in writing rules for just our nation that involve intentionally shunning cheap energy with the idea that the entire planet's climate effects can even be substantially slowed, let alone stopped, let alone reversed.
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As a tea drinker, would you care if your brew cup was 0.011% novichok? Not if your name is Keith Henderson, Master of Christian Apologetics.
As a tea drinker, would you care if your brew cup was 0.011% novichok? Not if your name is Keith Henderson, Master of Christian Apologetics.
Silly.
Indeed. Just like Keith Henderson article.
What is a Master of Christian Apologetics anyway?
The reference is to a Master's Degree. Christian Apologetics is a theological subject area.
The ideal qualification for an AGW denier, then.
Also a chemical engineering consultant.
Apparently with no qualifications in chemical engineering.
Oil is not a fossil. You don't get to dictate the market. People are free to buy the fuel of their own choice.The path forward is to set up conditions where fossil oil can be replaced with man made alternatives
when it is economically the best choice.
The U.S. supports 80% of its energy production from coal, oil, and natural gas products. Another 9% comes from nuclear power. Only 2% comes from wind power, and only 0.6% comes from solar panels. Oil, coal, and natural gas are cheap and plentiful.The US could position themselves to lead the world in the technology.
That's why they buy gasoline and diesel fuel distilled from naturally occurring oil.When people have a choice at the gas pump of an oil based fuel vs the man made one, and the man made one
is the lowest price, I can tell you which one they will choose.
'kay
CO2 emissions are a type of pollution.
CO2 is a naturally occurring gas in the atmosphere. It is not pollution. It is necessary for life on Earth.
It is also incapable of warming the Earth.
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