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Answer me this:

NolanVoyd said:
Because you are conflating different groups of people.
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Nope. AFAIC, the people rioting in L.A, have made themselves all of the same group; some knowingly, some out of ignorance.
NolanVoyd said:
Evidence?
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Evidence of what I think???
NolanVoyd said:
Seems to me those most disturbed by it are the Americans.
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No, there are a few Americans who are genuinely upset, but most of the Gringos involved are either users or tools of the users.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Nope.
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Yep.
RetiredAtLast said:
AFAIC, the people rioting in L.A, have made themselves all of the same group; some knowingly, some out of ignorance.
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Nonsense.

You are saying the people rioting in LA are the people that gave up everything to be here.

That is false.

Those people, the immigrants, are doing what immigrants do, keeping their heads down and flying under the radar.

The people rioting are mostly not immigrants. They are Americans.

and by the way. The vast majority of them are protesting not rioting.

the small percentage that are rioting are not the same people.

RetiredAtLast said:
No, there are a few Americans who are genuinely upset, but most of the Gringos involved are either users or tools of the users.
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There you go again.

Im not talking about gringos.

Im talking people of Mexican herritage.

They are not all the same you know.

Some are as American as you and I, some are immigrants.

Quit conflating them.
 

How do you feel about people who wear or fly the Confederate flag, or put Confederate bumper stickers on their vehicles?
 
NolanVoyd said:
You are saying the people rioting in LA are the people that gave up everything to be here.
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Nope. You must pay attention. I said that some of the people rioting in L.A. are people who gave up everything in their home country to be here.
NolanVoyd said:
The people rioting are mostly not immigrants. They are Americans
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Some Americans are legal immigrants.


NolanVoyd said:
and by the way. The vast majority of them are protesting not rioting.
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Protesters are not violating the law. Rioters are. Know the difference?
NolanVoyd said:
the small percentage that are rioting are not the same people.
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LOL!! the "small percentage" in L.A. are the demonstrators during the day then, like cockroaches, the rioters come out at night.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Nope. You must pay attention. I said that some of the people rioting in L.A. are people who gave up everything in their home country to be here.
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Very unlikely that any are.
RetiredAtLast said:
Protesters are not violating the law. Rioters are. Know the difference?
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You should learn the difference.

You paint them all with the same brush. Just like you did with BLM

RetiredAtLast said:
LOL!! the "small percentage" in L.A. are the demonstrators during the day then, like cockroaches, the rioters come out at night.
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The people that come out at night and riot are mostly not the same people that are protesting furing the day.
 
multivita-man said:
Nazi flag?
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The display of a Nazi flag is illegal in California and on public property in New York. It's banned by public opinion in most of the world, and I would be opposed to it's display.
Next ridiculous question?
 
RetiredAtLast said:
The display of a Nazi flag is illegal in California and on public property in New York. It's banned by public opinion in most of the world, and I would be opposed to it's display.
Next ridiculous question?
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It's not illegal. It's protected under the First Amendment.

So if someone displayed the Nazi flag peacefully?
 
multivita-man said:
It's not illegal. It's protected under the First Amendment.
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It's illegal in California under the state's "hate" legislation. It's illegal on public property in New York.
multivita-man said:
So if someone displayed the Nazi flag peacefully?
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I would be opposed to that display. I would support a national ban on it's display by any other than educational institutions.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
It's illegal in California under the state's "hate" legislation. It's illegal on public property in New York.
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It's only illegal if the intent of the display is to intimidate or harass people. Some jurisdictions won't allow it on publicly-owned property. That doesn't mean it's banned.

RetiredAtLast said:
I would be opposed to that display. I would support a national ban on it's display by any other than educational institutions.
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Going back to the Confederate flag, I mean, that's the flag of people who tried to destroy the Union as we know it. I've not been to the South recently but I remember seeing it all the time growing up.
 
multivita-man said:
Going back to the Confederate flag, I mean, that's the flag of people who tried to destroy the Union as we know it
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Yes, that was the Democrat slave holders. But today it's just people who are from the South and proud of it, just as some people are strangely proud of being New Yorkers.
 

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RetiredAtLast said:
Yes, that was the Democrat slave holders. But today it's just people who are from the South and proud of it, just as some people are strangely proud of being New Yorkers.
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Just conservatives from the south proud of being from south.

 
NolanVoyd said:
Yes they were conservatives
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No, they were Democrats. It was Democrats that started the Civil War to keep slavery. You, of course, will believe the fairy tales that The Party feeds to you, but read a bit of history - if you dare.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
No, they were Democrats.
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Yes. They were democrats AND they were conservatives.
RetiredAtLast said:
It was Democrats that started the Civil War to keep slavery.
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it was conservatives that did that

yes they were democrats then. They are Repu licans now.
RetiredAtLast said:
You, of course, will believe the fairy tales that The Party feeds to you, but read a bit of history - if you dare.
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You really should read history. The confederates were democrats, but they were not liberals they were conservatives.

Now conservatives with confederate sympathies are Republican

 
NolanVoyd said:
Yes. They were democrats AND they were conservatives.
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No, they weren't. They were Democrats. After the '60's the voters began to turn to the Republican candidates, so Democrats, slowly in small numbers, began to switch to the GOP. They weren't "conservatives." They were just protecting their jobs.
NolanVoyd said:
it was conservatives that did that

yes they were democrats then. They are Repu licans now.
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You can say, "conservatives" as many times as you like, but it was Democrats that profited from Southern slavery,and started the Civil War to protect it.
NolanVoyd said:
You really should read history. The confederates were democrats, but they were not liberals they were conservatives.
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LOL!! So they were Democrats before the Progressives took over the Party! You can't erase the history of your Party simply by calling yourself a "Liberal." You vote for the Party responsible for slavery, the Civil War, the KKK and Jim Crow.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
No, they weren't.
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yes they were.

you arent seriously trying to argue they were luberals are you?

Lol.
RetiredAtLast said:
They were Democrats.
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Yes, and they were conservatives
RetiredAtLast said:
After the '60's the voters began to turn to the Republican candidates, so Democrats, slowly in small numbers, began to switch to the GOP. They weren't "conservatives." They were just protecting their jobs.
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Southern conservatives used to be democrats now southern conservatives are Republicans.
RetiredAtLast said:
You can say, "conservatives" as many times as you like, but it was Democrats that profited from Southern slavery,and started the Civil War to protect it.
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Yes, it was conservative democrats
RetiredAtLast said:
LOL!! So they were Democrats before the Progressives took over the Party! You can't erase the history of your Party simply by calling yourself a "Liberal." You vote for the Party responsible for slavery, the Civil War, the KKK and Jim Crow.
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It was conservatives that were responsible for slavery the civil war , the kkk and jim crow.

They were democrats in the old days now they are Republicans

 
multivita-man said:
Different Democratic party. More aligned with today's Republicans, really.
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Same Democrat Party. Some people left it. If the Party isn't far enough left for you, it doesn't mean they were "conservatives."
multivita-man said:
There's more to it than that.
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Not for most. But just as there are some strange people on the left, there are some strange ones on the right. In both cases, they can be ignored as far as national policy is concerned.
 
RetiredAtLast said:
Same Democrat Party. Some people left it. If the Party isn't far enough left for you, it doesn't mean they were "conservatives."
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Looks like someone needs a history lesson, but sorry, I don't teach for free.
 
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