An ethical man and a good Republican.

[ModernDiogenes]

Why, as a Republican mayor, I support Kamala Harris over Trump

Arizona Republicans like me can emulate Sen. John McCain's motto of 'Country First' and beat back Trump and his threat to democracy.

www.azcentral.com

Republican Mayor of Mesa, Arizona, John Giles, using the argument I made here last week came forward and called other Republicans to vote for Harris.

Claiming to be a good Republican and proud of what his party use to stand for, he sited Trump is simply too unethical a human being and of such low character as to make him an unpatriotic choice for POTUS. A man who, as a candidate of the Republican Party, forces Republicans to do the patriotic thing and put country before Party and vote for Harris.

I hope other Republicans are listening. There will be time to save the Grand Old Party after November from the break in the Party that allowed such a creature of low character and horrendous ethics to become its candidate. The work that will allow the Republican Party to, once again, offer choices worthy of public service.

First though is to show Republicans are patriots first, acknowledge the error, and put country before platform and policy. Vote Harris this time. We apologize. We’ll come back with something better than Trump in 2028. Someone worthy of your consideration.


Take Our Party Back
“Republicans For Character and Ethics”.

 

[Bodecea]

There are several "silent" movements to remain Republican and quietly vote Blue in November....no one can see who you actually vote for......at least for now.

 

[Craig234]

I'd be more impressed with the 'ethical Republicans' if they had launched a nominee to run in the general election, because it's a lot easier for many 'ethical Republicans' to vote for a Republican like that instead of trump, than it is to vote for Harris, who they dislike so much on policies, instead of trump.

It's analogous to when Teddy Roosevelt ran third party against Taft to split the Republican vote and deny Republicans a win, giving the election to Democrat Woodrow Wilson. Why didn't Liz Chaney run for that reason?

 

[noonereal]

I hope other Republicans are listening. There will be time to save the Grand Old Party after November from the break in the Party that allowed such a creature of low character and horrendous ethics to become its candidate. The work that will allow the Republican Party to, once again, offer choices worthy of public service.

Yep, Trump has disgraced the party.

 

[noonereal]

I'd be more impressed with the 'ethical Republicans' if they had launched a nominee to run in the general election, because it's a lot easier for many 'ethical Republicans' to vote for a Republican like that instead of trump, than it is to vote for Harris, who they dislike so much on policies, instead of trump.

It's a cult. It would not have mattered.
They accept Trump's words as fact.

 

[Michael Cole]

I'd be more impressed with the 'ethical Republicans' if they had launched a nominee to run in the general election, because it's a lot easier for many 'ethical Republicans' to vote for a Republican like that instead of trump, than it is to vote for Harris, who they dislike so much on policies, instead of trump.

It's analogous to when Teddy Roosevelt ran third party against Taft to split the Republican vote and deny Republicans a win, giving the election to Democrat Woodrow Wilson. Why didn't Liz Chaney run for that reason?

Good thing he's not trying to impress you. Arizona is a swing state. He's trying to impress Arizonans. I wish him luck.

 

[Airyaman]

Why, as a Republican mayor, I support Kamala Harris over Trump

Arizona Republicans like me can emulate Sen. John McCain's motto of 'Country First' and beat back Trump and his threat to democracy.

www.azcentral.com

Republican Mayor of Mesa, Arizona, John Giles, using the argument I made here last week came forward and called other Republicans to vote for Harris.

Claiming to be a good Republican and proud of what his party use to stand for, he sited Trump is simply too unethical a human being and of such low character as to make him an unpatriotic choice for POTUS. A man who, as a candidate of the Republican Party, forces Republicans to do the patriotic thing and put country before Party and vote for Harris.

I hope other Republicans are listening. There will be time to save the Grand Old Party after November from the break in the Party that allowed such a creature of low character and horrendous ethics to become its candidate. The work that will allow the Republican Party to, once again, offer choices worthy of public service.

First though is to show Republicans are patriots first, acknowledge the error, and put country before platform and policy. Vote Harris this time. We apologize. We’ll come back with something better than Trump in 2028. Someone worthy of your consideration.


Take Our Party Back
“Republicans For Character and Ethics”.

I have tried several times in the past on this board to bring up the topic of character and morality in regards to our leaders. It is my #1 characteristic when choosing a candidate, and the #1 reason I will forever be a NeverTrumper.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It takes a lot backbone for the mayor of Mesa to say this. Mesa is a very red city. That being said, of it's conservatism is from LDS church members. They don't seem to worship Trump like your hardcore MAGA individual does.

 

[Ginger Ale]

I'll stand by my prediction, Arizona will again go blue this November! We have a ton of Independents, and never Trumpers out here. I know they'll play a huge roll at the box!

Cons had a chance to gain back these members, and they blew it in the primary. The price to pay will be who sits in the White House, I don't think these Republicans can make their voice any clearer, you all should have paid attention!

 

[Craig234]

It's a cult. It would not have mattered.
They accept Trump's words as fact.

It would. I'm not talking about the cult.

I'm talking about Republicans who don't want to vote for trump but feel compelled to vote Republican.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I have tried several times in the past on this board to bring up the topic of character and morality in regards to our leaders. It is my #1 characteristic when choosing a candidate, and the #1 reason I will forever be a NeverTrumper.

Yep.

Mindcrime is my favorite Queesryeche record, BTW.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Why, as a Republican mayor, I support Kamala Harris over Trump

Arizona Republicans like me can emulate Sen. John McCain's motto of 'Country First' and beat back Trump and his threat to democracy.

www.azcentral.com

Republican Mayor of Mesa, Arizona, John Giles, using the argument I made here last week came forward and called other Republicans to vote for Harris.

Claiming to be a good Republican and proud of what his party use to stand for, he sited Trump is simply too unethical a human being and of such low character as to make him an unpatriotic choice for POTUS. A man who, as a candidate of the Republican Party, forces Republicans to do the patriotic thing and put country before Party and vote for Harris.

I hope other Republicans are listening. There will be time to save the Grand Old Party after November from the break in the Party that allowed such a creature of low character and horrendous ethics to become its candidate. The work that will allow the Republican Party to, once again, offer choices worthy of public service.

First though is to show Republicans are patriots first, acknowledge the error, and put country before platform and policy. Vote Harris this time. We apologize. We’ll come back with something better than Trump in 2028. Someone worthy of your consideration.


Take Our Party Back
“Republicans For Character and Ethics”.

Hmm... is Kamala really that better? Was Hillary more ethical than Trump?? You think Biden is an ethical man??

 

[Craig234]

It takes a lot backbone for the mayor of Mesa to say this. Mesa is a very red city. That being said, of it's conservatism is from LDS church members. They don't seem to worship Trump like your hardcore MAGA individual does.

It reminds me of German politicians who tried to resist Hitler. There, we saw the 'night of long knives' to get rid of (kill and jail) such opposition. We don't seem close to that here, but it seems clear trump would love if he could do it.

 

[Ginger Ale]

It takes a lot backbone for the mayor of Mesa to say this. Mesa is a very red city. That being said, of it's conservatism is from LDS church members. They don't seem to worship Trump like your hardcore MAGA individual does.

Yep, Mormons aren't that thrilled with the Evangelical Donny. Never have been. That matters out here in Mormon country, they've really done a piss poor job of winning them over. I can't say I'm sad about it.

From the earliest days of his campaign, it was clear Donald Trump had a Mormon problem. During the campaign, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) had ambivalent feelings about him and his influence in the GOP. Now, Trump’s standing among Latter-day Saints—a once loyal Republican constituency—is deteriorating.

A new poll conducted by the Survey Center on American Life finds sharply diverging views between Latter-day Saints and white evangelical Protestants. More than half (51 percent) of Latter-day Saints express negative views of the former president. They are also twice as likely to have a very unfavorable than a very favorable opinion of him. By way of comparison, two-thirds (67 percent) of white evangelical Protestants have favorable views of Trump. https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/trumps-problem-with-mormon-voters-is-getting-worse/

 

[noonereal]

It would. I'm not talking about the cult.

I'm talking about Republicans who don't want to vote for trump but feel compelled to vote Republican.

Republicans who don't want to vote for Trump don't.

 

[Donatello]

I have tried several times in the past on this board to bring up the topic of character and morality in regards to our leaders. It is my #1 characteristic when choosing a candidate, and the #1 reason I will forever be a NeverTrumper.

Good luck. The last thing MAGA wants is for "morality" to be a voting criteria. Their ammo in that department got depleted when Trump lost in the Jean Carrol trial. The plan is to make it about race and gender. Never about morality or honesty or decency. MAGA don't do that soft shit.

 

[Ginger Ale]

Hmm... is Kamala really that better? Was Hillary more ethical than Trump?? You think Biden is an ethical man??

What exactly is Trump offering America? He never gets to that, and that's a problem.

Nothing he's promising is good for this country. Deporting everyone will kill our economy, cutting all our social services will kill Americans, women are less free under Trump than they've been for 50 years, and those who can't have children feel ostracized by MAGA. Anti woke policy is essentially modern day segregation. DEI hire is the new "N" word.

What's the up side to Trump?

 

[Craig234]

Republicans who don't want to vote for Trump don't.

There are plenty of Republicans who 'hold their nose and vote for trump' over a Democrat, who wouldn't if they had a better Republican option IMO. I can relate as I 'held my nose and voted for Hillary' over trump - not that I wanted a third party alternative, precisely because that would split the vote and elect trump.

 

[Michael Cole]

Hmm... is Kamala really that better? Was Hillary more ethical than Trump?? You think Biden is an ethical man??

None have been indicted, so yes, they are more ethical.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why, as a Republican mayor, I support Kamala Harris over Trump

Arizona Republicans like me can emulate Sen. John McCain's motto of 'Country First' and beat back Trump and his threat to democracy.

www.azcentral.com

Republican Mayor of Mesa, Arizona, John Giles, using the argument I made here last week came forward and called other Republicans to vote for Harris.

Claiming to be a good Republican and proud of what his party use to stand for, he sited Trump is simply too unethical a human being and of such low character as to make him an unpatriotic choice for POTUS. A man who, as a candidate of the Republican Party, forces Republicans to do the patriotic thing and put country before Party and vote for Harris.

I hope other Republicans are listening. There will be time to save the Grand Old Party after November from the break in the Party that allowed such a creature of low character and horrendous ethics to become its candidate. The work that will allow the Republican Party to, once again, offer choices worthy of public service.

First though is to show Republicans are patriots first, acknowledge the error, and put country before platform and policy. Vote Harris this time. We apologize. We’ll come back with something better than Trump in 2028. Someone worthy of your consideration.


Take Our Party Back
“Republicans For Character and Ethics”.

AN ETHICAL WOMAN AND A GOOD DEMOCRAT
{
When former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii heard the news while she was abroad that President Biden was bowing out of the race and had endorsed his vice president, Kamala Harris, for the top spot on the Democratic Party ticket, she noted that the policies under a Harris administration would be the same as under the Biden administration because neither of the two would be the ones calling the shots.

“She is the new figurehead for the deep state and the maidservant of Hillary Clinton, queen of the cabal of warmongers,” the former Democrat said. “They will continue their efforts to engulf the world in war and taking away our liberty.”
But to the extent that Harris would have sway in shaping the direction of the country, the VP is even more dangerous than Biden, she argued.
“She’s the same person today, now, as she was then and as she always has been,” Gabbard said on Fox News. “And this is frankly what makes her an even more dangerous potential president than President Biden has been. I think it’s important for us to focus on this as they've made this change midstream. And the reason why she’s more dangerous is because she is an ideologue and her ideology is rooted in extreme policies that are far worse for our country than Joe Biden’s have ever been.”}

Tulsi Gabbard Explains Why Harris Would Be a More Dangerous President Than Biden

townhall.com

 

[Eriech]

Why, as a Republican mayor, I support Kamala Harris over Trump

Arizona Republicans like me can emulate Sen. John McCain's motto of 'Country First' and beat back Trump and his threat to democracy.

www.azcentral.com

Republican Mayor of Mesa, Arizona, John Giles, using the argument I made here last week came forward and called other Republicans to vote for Harris.

Claiming to be a good Republican and proud of what his party use to stand for, he sited Trump is simply too unethical a human being and of such low character as to make him an unpatriotic choice for POTUS. A man who, as a candidate of the Republican Party, forces Republicans to do the patriotic thing and put country before Party and vote for Harris.

I hope other Republicans are listening. There will be time to save the Grand Old Party after November from the break in the Party that allowed such a creature of low character and horrendous ethics to become its candidate. The work that will allow the Republican Party to, once again, offer choices worthy of public service.

First though is to show Republicans are patriots first, acknowledge the error, and put country before platform and policy. Vote Harris this time. We apologize. We’ll come back with something better than Trump in 2028. Someone worthy of your consideration.


Take Our Party Back
“Republicans For Character and Ethics”.

Was it ethical to lie to the American people for many years about the CICs mental decline a cognative impairment? Kamala aided and abetted a Weekend at Bernie's style fraud; one that has put the US in great peril.

 

[noonereal]

There are plenty of Republicans who 'hold their nose and vote for trump' over a Democrat, who wouldn't if they had a better Republican option IMO. I can relate as I 'held my nose and voted for Hillary' over trump - not that I wanted a third party alternative, precisely because that would split the vote and elect trump.

Then they are ****ed up. No real American can vote for Trump. Period.
They are compromised as soon as they pulled the lever.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Hmm... is Kamala really that better? Was Hillary more ethical than Trump?? You think Biden is an ethical man??

You going to make me write out the list again to refute the false equivalency argument you’re presenting that has no merit?

Ok, I will:

Trump betrayed family members in screwing over his own brother in regard to the inheritance of the father’s estate. He did so again with all three of his wives with his cheating that was so public as to add humiliation to the indignities they suffered.

He cheated and swindled his own charitable foundation. The students of his fraudulent university. The investors if his six corporations that went into bankruptcy.

He was found so fraudulent in his NYS real estate dealings he was fined $480 million and barred from ever doing real estate business in NYS again.

He’s breached so many agreements he’s been sued over 4000 times.

He told over 30,000 DOCUMENTED lies and misstatements during his four years in office.

I could go on at length.

I’m sorry but it is obvious that anyone paying attention knows this isn’t some standard issue politician type ethics issues. This is pathological level, truly new lows, in ethics and lack of character and is OBVIOUSLY comparing Trump to any non-criminally charged politician is an attempt at a FALSE EQUIVALENCY ARGUMENT.

 

[Donatello]

Was it ethical to lie to the American people for many years about the CICs mental decline a cognative impairment? Kamala aided and abetted a Weekend at Bernie's style fraud; one that has put the US in great peril.

Is that a whataboutism? Care to comment on the topic or am I interrupting your trying to change it?

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Was it ethical to lie to the American people for many years about the CICs mental decline a cognative impairment? Kamala aided and abetted a Weekend at Bernie's style fraud; one that has put the US in great peril.

See above. False equivalency argument.