I'd like you to be right but our optimistic expectations have only led to disappointment.
How can Iraq be "a huge mistake" when, after Bush left office, Biden called it his Administrations "greatest achievement" and Barrack Obama called Iraq "stable"?It is amazing to me that with all that is happening in Iraq because of that foolish and poorly planned "boat rocking" you still believe it was the right thing to do. How much more will need to happen before you admit that invading Iraq was a HUGE mistake. Taking responsibility for your mistakes is the first step in avoiding more. Sticking sticks into hornets nests with no plan will not end well. Even a kid knows that.
The world is far more dangerous today because of this sorry excuse for a President. In the Civil War, there was a Union general named Irvin McDowell who was so incompetent many people suspected he was trying to help the Confederacy by fighting so poorly.
When I look at the enormous damage the prissy leftist now occupying the White House has done to this country, together with his clear resentment of American culture and traditions, I can't help but think of McDowell--plain old incompetence, or something far worse?
Russia and China have already moved into Central America, are establishing oil refineries there, as well as a canal between the two oceans to circumvent Panama, and have Venezuela, and possibly Mexico now, as partners. Meanwhile Obama has not only banned oil exploration on government lands, he has outlawed coal and still not acted on the Keystone pipeline. There's more but you get the drift.
How can Iraq be "a huge mistake" when, after Bush left office, Biden called it his Administrations "greatest achievement" and Barrack Obama called Iraq "stable"?
And you are saying that Bush didn't think and say those same things? Wishful thinking and "hope springs eternal" are not crimes. Invading a country under false pretenses certainly is. We all hoped against hope that we were wrong and Iraq was not worse off than when we invaded but sometimes hopes get dashed. There was just too much wrong with the Govt. Bush installed there I'm afraid.
You keep saying the same lie over and over again I guess hoping that eventually it becomes true but lies never become true. Maliki wasn't Bush's choice for Iraq and no matter how many times you say it he wasn't installed by Bush. I am amazed that you continue to spout the same lies over and over again. Guess some people just don't have any pride.
What We Left Behind - The New YorkerEarly in 2006, as the civil war grew fiercer, the American Ambassador in Baghdad, Zalmay Khalilzad, was summoned to a videoconference with President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair, of the U.K. In parliamentary elections the previous December, a coalition of Shiite parties had won the most votes. But their nominee for Prime Minister, the incumbent, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, was struggling to form a government. An avuncular, bookish figure, Jaafari had infuriated Bush with his indecisiveness, amiably presiding over the sectarian bloodbath that had followed the recent bombing of a major Shiite shrine.
During the videoconference, Bush asked Khalilzad, “Can you get rid of Jaafari?”
“Yes,” Khalilzad replied, “but it will be difficult.”
For several days, Khalilzad told me, he worked to block Jaafari from securing a parliamentary majority, and finally he succeeded. But, as a condition for withdrawing quietly, Jaafari insisted that Iraq’s next Prime Minister come from his party, the Islamist group known as Dawa, which for five decades had fought tenaciously for Shiite interests. Ali al-Adeeb, a well-liked party official, seemed to be a logical candidate. But Khalilzad was troubled by Adeeb; his father was Iranian, and many Iraqis were already convinced that Iran secretly controlled their country. “He’s of Persian blood,” Khalilzad said. “This is what they believe.”
Frustrated, Khalilzad turned to the C.I.A. analyst assigned to his office, a fluent Arabic speaker whose job was to know Iraq’s leaders. “Can it be that, in this country of thirty million people, the choice of Prime Minister is either Jaafari, who is incompetent, or Ali Adeeb, who is Iranian? Isn’t there anyone else?”
“I have a name for you,” the C.I.A. officer said. “Maliki.”
Among the Americans, Maliki was largely unknown, though he served on the committee charged with purging the Iraqi government of former members of Saddam Hussein’s Baath Party. “He’s clean,” the C.I.A. officer said; he wasn’t corrupt, and he had no apparent connection to terrorist activities. “We haven’t got any evidence on him.” And, unlike Jaafari, Maliki was “a tough guy,” seemingly able to defy the Iranian regime.
“Let me meet him,” Khalilzad said.
That night, during a long dinner at the American Embassy, Khalilzad asked Maliki if he’d considered becoming Prime Minister. Khalilzad recalled, laughing, that Maliki gave a startled jump. But, as the two men talked, Maliki said that he could indeed secure the votes, and so, as the dinner broke up, well past midnight, Khalilzad told an aide to get the White House on the phone. “We let Washington know there was a change of plans,” Khalilzad said. Sunni and Kurdish politicians endorsed his candidacy. Within three months, Maliki had become Iraq’s Prime Minister.
How did Maliki get in power? Here's what people who were there said.
What We Left Behind - The New Yorker
Maliki said that he could indeed secure the votes
I would certainly like to know what Obama meant when he said he could be 'more flexible' after the election.
I offered the quotes directly from Obama who, by the way, now says it was not his idea to leave Iraq.And you are saying that Bush didn't think and say those same things?
Who are you referring to or quoting here?Wishful thinking and "hope springs eternal" are not crimes.
Is it? Then why did Congress approve of this illegality?Invading a country under false pretenses certainly is.
Iraqis voted.We all hoped against hope that we were wrong and Iraq was not worse off than when we invaded but sometimes hopes get dashed. There was just too much wrong with the Govt. Bush installed there I'm afraid.
How did Maliki get in power? Here's what people who were there said.
What We Left Behind - The New Yorker
Interesting article that I am sure you either won't read or will ignore
Obama
Yes, an opinion piece and yet so true except to the Obamabots
YES indeed an interesting article. Especially the the last sentence which is a question.
"When will Republicans gather the courage to start speaking truth to power?"
My guess would be never.Why changed the DNA?:roll:
Not at all happy with the Republicans but I am a conservative and the Republicans are much closer to my philosophy and ideology than today's Democrats. How anyone can support the incompetent in the WH now is beyond comprehension. The article is right on and nails it. Obama is a disaster and the next President is going to have one helluva mess to clean up
" How anyone can support the incompetent in the WH now is beyond comprehension.
"?? Yet you were here 24/7 supporting the incompetent before him,who started ISISS.Go figure.:roll:
That is your opinion drilled into your head by a left leaning media and a leftwing with an agenda. The actual economic data and foreign results simply don't support your point of view. Keep saying it over and over again doesn't make it true.
Seems you have a vivid picture of the past but no idea what is happening today. Liberalism is a disease seek help
Interesting article that I am sure you either won't read or will ignore
Obama
Yes, an opinion piece and yet so true except to the Obamabots
...Barack Obama deliberately set out to lose the war in Iraq, and he did. He defied the advice of his joint chiefs of staff to secure America’s formidable military presence and keep 20,000 troops in country, and left Iraq to its own devices and the tender mercies of Iran. In doing so, he betrayed every American and Iraqi who gave his life to create a free Iraq and keep it out of the clutches of the terrorists.
Iraq is now a war zone dominated by the terrorist forces of the Islamic State, whose rise Obama’s policies fostered...
I didn't quote an EX commies "opinion piece ",you did.:lamo
Good article, thanks for posting.
Really? Where exactly did I quote any ex commie's opinion piece and ISIS came out of Syria not Iraq. Get some help reading the article because you seem to be unable to quote it accurately
Really? Where exactly did I quote any ex commie's opinion piece and ISIS came out of Syria not Iraq. Get some help reading the article because you seem to be unable to quote it accurately
ISIS is there because Obama decided to lose the peace in Iraq. HE put those people there.
Who cares? We all could spend the rest of our lives going around in circles trying to blame Obama or Bush (depending on our particular political lean) for the disaster we see in Iraq, and nothing would get accomplished. People should be talking about how to fix the problem, not whose fault it is. That's water over the dam - it's too late to do anything about it now.
Who cares? We all could spend the rest of our lives going around in circles trying to blame Obama or Bush (depending on our particular political lean) for the disaster we see in Iraq, and nothing would get accomplished. People should be talking about how to fix the problem, not whose fault it is. That's water over the dam - it's too late to do anything about it now.
The key leaders of ISIS were in the Iraqi insurgency in the 2000s. SOooo...if george the second hadn't lied us into invading Iraq there would be no ISSIS.I thought everyone knew that horowitz was raised a commie.It just shows how uninformed you are.Itssa shame.
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