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Losing side? What do they have to lose? They can do this for eternity, since it is an Eternal Struggle. It's the West that wants peace and quiet, so it can go back to making money and turning the world into one big parking lot.On the whole, I would say that Al Qaeda and the other jihadi terrorists are still pretty much on the losing side. But this conflict will last many more decades.
Obama got reelected saying how he had decimated Al Qaeda and they were "on the run". Now we evacuate embassies all over the Arab world and leave with our tail between our legs as Al Qaeda stages prison breaks all over the Arab world freeing there most hardened terrorist by the hundreds. Who's on the run again?
Losing side? What do they have to lose? They can do this for eternity, since it is an Eternal Struggle. It's the West that wants peace and quiet, so it can go back to making money and turning the world into one big parking lot.
35 years? That's nonsense. Learn Islam and world history. Thanks a bunch.Eternity really is a very long time. The struggle with jihadi terrorism has been going on for only about 35 years. If we manage to keep killing them in sufficient numbers and stop them from gaining more power, they will lose in the end.
35 years? That's nonsense. Learn Islam and world history. Thanks a bunch.
And if any of those embacies were attacked and people die, you would be complaining about that. Face it, no matter what Obama does, you are going to complain about it.
Wrong, if Obama had said we will not run and hide from these threats. What we will do is harden the targets and provide the security needed to ensure the safety of our embassies I would applaud him.
The distinction is that bombs are being thrown again, not why they are being thrown again. This a war for God, you won't be holding a victory parade any time soon, or at all, ever. As long as the faiths are in fundamental conflict with each other, and they are, people are going to be killed in the names of their gods. This tit for tat has no end since neither side can win and neither side wants to lose.No that is not nonsense. If you can't make the difference between modern day jihadi terrorism and Islam as a religion, then you should learn some history.
The distinction is that bombs are being thrown again, not why they are being thrown again. This a war for God, you won't be holding a victory parade any time soon, or at all, ever. As long as the faiths are in fundamental conflict with each other, and they are, people are going to be killed in the names of their gods. This tit for tat has no end since neither side can win and neither side wants to lose.
And if any of those embacies were attacked and people die, you would be complaining about that. Face it, no matter what Obama does, you are going to complain about it.
Heya TNA. :2wave: So you think an Administration should over-react to what they are calling Chatter? With no Specific threats? Why should we close down for business? What has changed in Yemen from this last year, with regards to AQ?
Yes it would be unfortunate if those Embassies or our people got hit. But now who do you think has control of this situation? If you are thinking it is us. Then you are mistaken.
It seems to escape you that the vast majority of people being killied by jihadi terrorists are other muslims.
Heya AV. :2wave: Did you forget about the Division between the Shia and the Sunni? Do you think that might also have something to do with other Muslims being killed?
Are you aware that the Sunni Arabs want a Untied Islamic States, now. Not a Caliphate. Course that's the Shia's fantasy dream. Now the Sunni.....they are bit more devious with their political strategies. Since they will use Democracy and the feigning of the Election process.
Then you have nothing to worry about right? And no, it didn't escape me because it is irrelevant to the current situation. We aren't killing them to stop them from killing each other now are we? The fact that they are fighting within the faith changes nothing at all as far as we are concerned. We are still the ultimate enemy even if they are killing each other along the way for the privilege of being the one to kill us.It seems to escape you that the vast majority of people being killied by jihadi terrorists are other muslims.
Yes they are but that is a legal status not reality. If the only way for us to be in a country is to build a prison and live inside it, we have no business being there.Embacies [sic] are considered U.S. soil...
I think the U.S. should hardline EVERY single embacy to the teeth with security and weapons or close them down. Embacies are considered U.S. soil, we have the military and defenses in the U.S. against attacks. Why shouldn't embacies have the same.
The Caliphate was historically very much a Sunni institution. Jihadi terrorists are to be found in most strands of Islam and jihadi terrorists of sunni-persuasion also mostly kill other sunni's.
Yes they are but that is a legal status not reality. If the only way for us to be in a country is to build a prison and live inside it, we have no business being there.
Tell me how it looks for the US to close down All our Embassies all throughout the Middle East and Africa? Does this make us look strong or that we are holding our own against these people?
Go with gone. Armed to the teeth is entirely pointless.Like I said, I'm for either having them armed to the teeth or gone.
My guess is the threat was against U.S. embacies as a whole, not specific ones. Therefore, any embacy is a target and since there is no way to harden all of them (the government simply won't do that) they should be closed as they are.
Tell me how would it look if Al-Q were to attack another embacy and inflict loss of lives again for the U.S.?
Well.....if we go by what they are calling the Chatter. The know for sure that the communication was to AQ in Yemen with the back and forth calls. Hence all the Drone attacks we have hit them with in the last 2 days. Which in return they shot down a helicopter. So we know where the Sweet Center of the Fig Newton is at the moment.
Truly it is damn if you do or damn if you don't. Due to the way we are fighting this alleged war on terror. Course with doing what you stated. We also could have sent out some Daniel Boone missions in several Countries. Killing any AQ ops and their likes. Which should also include any MB as well as any Sunni and Shia Clerics. Which even if they are not Senior Ops AQ.....say just their followers. Then we take them down. Like in each of those Countries they are in. Strike all at once. So all AQ can do is stand there with their mouths open.
Do you think that makes a Point to AQ and their Pals.
Now.....tell me what it will look like should we get hit or our people get taken. After closing All these Embassies?
Obama got reelected saying how he had decimated Al Qaeda and they were "on the run". Now we evacuate embassies all over the Arab world and leave with our tail between our legs as Al Qaeda stages prison breaks all over the Arab world freeing there most hardened terrorist by the hundreds. Who's on the run again?
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