Altruism is Obama's new jobs plan

Speaking this week to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the president assured the nation's business leaders that he "gets it," that he understands the pressure cooker they've lived in during this deep recession and snail's pace recovery.

And then he made a strange plea for a guy who "gets it." He asked them to stop knocking themselves out to keep their enterprises afloat and just go out and hire someone.

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Invoking JFK, the president urged executives to "ask yourself what you can do for America." His ask: Take the $2 trillion sitting on their sidelines and add workers to their payrolls.

The response was described as polite, which is a nice way of saying they thought him clueless.

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You don't need an MBA to know business doesn't work that way. Companies that add workers ahead of demand are soon out of business.

And investors don't invest in an economy still vulnerable to the whims of a president who can't tell pro-business policies from anti-business ones.

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...Obama could reverse policies that are choking off domestic oil production and contributing to rising energy costs. The nervousness about oil prices is detrimental to investment.

He could admit that Obamacare was rushed through without regard to the higher costs for employers. When the government makes every employee added to the payroll more expensive, the result is fewer hires.

The president could also stop stubbornly defending his financial regulations and listen to complaints that they make it all but impossible for banks to lend to small businesses.

He could roll back spending to calm fears that exploding deficits will send the economy tumbling again.

And he could get over his obsession with raising taxes on high-income earners to provide craved-for certainty in the tax code.

But instead, he reveals he doesn't get it at all by assuming businessmen can do what politicians do — spend money they don't have on things they don't need without worrying about paying the bill.

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Albert Di Salvo said:

Obama represents the triumph of hope over experience. This will not turn out well for America.

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Whovian said:

I love how a man with no business experience tries to tell business men how to run their corporations, and expects them to follow his suggestions. If it wsn't so sad, it'd be funny.

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Redress said:

Op/ed, no real content, nothing to see here.

I do like Whovian's tactics, nice to be able to use them on his threads.

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Whovian said:

Yes... comments made by the President to the Chamber of Commerce, reported in a piece (op-ed though it may be), on a news website... EXACTLY the same as spamming the board with Media Matters nonsense.

You sure told me

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Redress said:

Op/ed, no real content, nothing to see here.

I do like Whovian's tactics, nice to be able to use them on his threads.

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MrVicchio said:

Speaking of nothing to see here, you merely dismiss Whovian's commentary in the "General Political Discussion" forum. Which is in itself an OP ED forum.

Thus your complaints are both worthless in adding anything to the debate, and off topic. How about addressing what's wrong with his comments instead of trying to derail the thread with flippant commentary. You represent the forum, that means you are looked up to. You're a "role model", thus people see you posting in this manner, and think it's okay for THEM too. Bringing debate and discussion down for all.

Step up Redress.

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Redress said:

I used the exact same type of comments that the OP uses when something like this is posted. I never take op/ed's seriously. They are by there nature not dependable sources of information.

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Redress said:

I used the exact same type of comments that the OP uses when something like this is posted. I never take op/ed's seriously. They are by there nature not dependable sources of information.

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MrVicchio said:

Then don't bother posting in them? He posted this to elicit discussion on the issue, using the OP as a spring board. AND he placed it in the appropriate forum for such discussion. He didn't post it in "Breaking News" he posted it here. And he added his own views and why he agrees with the sources conclusions.

I suppose you COULD break down the Source material and then take that to deconstruct HIS posts. But that would require effort, and debate leaving you open for counter debate. It appears you are not interested in that, just popping into threads and posting dis-missives of the OP as not worth the effort and expecting people to roll over for you. That time has ended. Now please stay on topic or not post, this is an interesting discussion and I for one would like to see it not derailed further.

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Redress said:

Funny how you never ask him those questions.

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MrVicchio said:

He's not a role model, he's a poster with an agenda. You have been asked, you have answered. Need I say more? Now will you contribute to the OP discussion?

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Redress said:

I did answer, you just did not like the answer since it was not blindly agreeing with you. He posted an op/ed. Op/eds are not intended to be a complete look at something, or a straightforward look at the issue, or even as some one claimed an analysis. It is an intentionally slanted look at something. Drawing any conclusions from an op/ed is stupid.

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MrVicchio said:

Everything posted here is basically OP-ED in terms of posters posts. So you're saying that drawing any conclusion from what we post is stupid? Why bother posting then?

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Redress said:

No, far more stuff is based off news than op/eds.

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MrVicchio said:

Speaking of nothing to see here, you merely dismiss Whovian's commentary in the "General Political Discussion" forum. Which is in itself an OP ED forum.

Thus your complaints are both worthless in adding anything to the debate, and off topic. How about addressing what's wrong with his comments instead of trying to derail the thread with flippant commentary. You represent the forum, that means you are looked up to. You're a "role model", thus people see you posting in this manner, and think it's okay for THEM too. Bringing debate and discussion down for all.

Step up Redress.

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Redress said:

I did answer, you just did not like the answer since it was not blindly agreeing with you. He posted an op/ed. Op/eds are not intended to be a complete look at something, or a straightforward look at the issue, or even as some one claimed an analysis. It is an intentionally slanted look at something. Drawing any conclusions from an op/ed is stupid.

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Whovian said:

The how about taking the opinions expressed in the op-ed, and saying either 'hey, I disagree with that because...' or 'Hey, I agree with that because...' instead of whining that I posted an op-ed in a forum for op-eds! :rofl:

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pbrauer said:

How about when you post an op/ed, you identify it as such? Like in the title of the thread.

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Albert Di Salvo said:

Op/eds don't provide facts. They provide analysis which can be used to create context and understanding.

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Whovian said:

The how about taking the opinions expressed in the op-ed, and saying either 'hey, I disagree with that because...' or 'Hey, I agree with that because...' instead of whining that I posted an op-ed in a forum for op-eds! :rofl:

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We recently signed export deals with India and China that will support more than 250,000 jobs here in the United States. We finalized a trade agreement with South Korea that will support at least 70,000 American jobs.

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That’s why I want to lower the corporate rate and eliminate these loopholes to pay for it, so that it doesn’t add a dime to our deficit. And I’m asking for your help in this fight. I think it can be done.

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I’ve ordered a government-wide review, and if there are rules on the books that are needlessly stifling job creation and economic growth, we will fix them.

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