If our allies can not afford bases in their own countries, which is why we are there, how are they going to build a base here?
If they have the money I would prefer they take care of themselves and we can leave.
I'd would rather have reduced expenses than trying to use the military to inflate the economy.
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Training. I see the added value in partnered training.
Yes, I would be comfortable for many reasons. Local resources of foreign troops, major economic development (rent, merch), and tighter relationships. I don't buy the paranoia surrounding that.
See my post above this for my opinion why it wouldn't hurt
They'd get the same partnered training as they would with our troops there. And a base of theirs on our soil wouldn't be THAT big of an economic benefit imo.
I do agree that it wouldn't hurt anything to let them have bases here in the US if they wanted. I just don't see any real benefit to it tactical wise. Our bases overseas are meant to be for help against neighboring countries that are..shall we say...less than ideal neighbors. The only less than ideal neighbor that we actually have is Mexico and that's mainly due to corrupt politicians and drug lords. And they have nothing that we couldn't handle easily by ourselves.
Got a nearby history book?Why do foreign countries/allies tolerate US bases? Why do THEY need them, when you don't?
They add zero value to our national security.You said they add zero value to us.
That's why I declare BS. They could REALLY boost our economy. Japan's been telling us this for decades.
What would be the tactical reasoning for them to put a base in the US?
They add zero value to our national security.
Initially...to be front line response to a spreading soviet threat. Today, forward bases in case **** jumps off.What is our tactical reason for our bases on foreign soil?
Foreign military bases on US soil adds zero to our national security. What...are you jumpy at Canada rising up? Cuba? mejico? You think we have some radical concerns we cant handle?That's a flat out lie. Having more trained troops vs. less add zero value?
The hell they teach you in the Air Force?
What's more beneficial? Responding to a call with a squad or a platoon? Also, it's not all about national security. It's about relationships and money.
Foreign military bases on US soil adds zero to our national security. What...are you jumpy at Canada rising up? Cuba? mejico? You think we have some radical concerns we cant handle?
:lamoHaha the point is not that we couldn't defend ourselves. The point is having that relationship with other countries willing to die if you get into deep sh*@. That would include having Canadian base presence here. Your question is juvenile.
Got a nearby history book?
You felt the need to ask why those bases where there in the first place and you want to pretend someone ELSE has a knowledge deficit? :lamoNo need. Tell me your particular knowledge deficit, and I'll help.
the reasoning is pretty straight forward. no other country has the resources to locate on our soil and locating on our soil wouldnt address anyone elses security issues. it is useful for us to have bases abroad as it allows projected power to fight a was on the other guys dirt (paraphrase from patton)
Well....
If we put down the same conditions.. then all countries do. You see, the US barely pays anything for having the bases. Power, water, sanitation is usually paid by the host nation, and as for rent ... HAHAHAH.. And when you finally do leave, the clean up costs are... not your problem!
I've always wanted to integrate some training battalions with Israeli units state-side. Their urban warfare tactical training courses are incredible. We could learn a lot from them. I would also support British and Canadian forces stateside.
As to directly answer your question, I can't think of any negative reasons that outweigh the positive. Foreign bases typically generate major income for surrounding towns as well.
As for Japan, they'd have no reason to be here. There more of an in-country defense force. Wouldn't make sense. Maybe Hawaii?
The desire to have military bases in other countries but not have a foreign military base in the US is a desire to police the world - to control the world.Would you support an ally, say Britian or Japan, having a base for one for their armed services here in the US? Why or why not? With that do you currently support US bases in other countries? If you support our bases there but not their bases here, what is your reasoning?
Krav-Maga is about as Israeli as Capoeira is Brazilian. Israel may have the best of the best, from a traditional perspective, and urban martial arts courses are available here in the US, regardless of the country of origin.
Differences between Israeli and American/Other Krav? - Krav Maga Association of America Israeli Self Defense Forums
No need to expand the Military Industrial Complex. See my post on page 1.
The desire to police the world to control the world.
I'm confused as to what a martial arts sector has to do with mountain warfare, marine warfare, airborne operations, money...etc.
US Spending Over $150 Billion Annually On Overseas Military Bases
The heck are you talking about? The US spends tons on bases. Cite your sources
If you want mountain warfare, just send them up to Vermont. We've got decent hilly terrain up here. I'm confused as to what a training program with urban terrain has to do with other countries that have similar terrain.
One of these things is not like the other: money.
No need to expand the Military Industrial Complex. Read my post on page 1 yet?
Yes, but it in no way pays the full amount .... Take GITMO... or the German bases. On most of those the US pays relatively little rent and utilities. Google it, plenty of stuff about it.
You're missing the point. You must be very ignorant of overseas operations for the US on foreign soil, so I understand why you don't understand why this would be beneficial. You train for everything. Airborne Ops, MWF, open breach, dives, latter marine Ops...
It's a global security measure. It's what you're briefed on in the 5 hour long brief when you arrive to whatever country. Besides the "you can't do this or this" speech
Cite your sources for your claims.
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