Alberta Without Canada

[sanman]

What kind of future could Alberta have outside of Canada, whether it chooses to become an independent country, or whether it chooses to join the United States?

Some notable tweets now circulating

 

[Allan]

So you've decided to reduce the quality of your OPs from videos to Tweets?

Good job

 

[soylentgreen]

From there manifesto it sounds like a few greedy oil barons do not like it when they are told they have to be concerned about the environment.

 

[sanman]

So you've decided to reduce the quality of your OPs from videos to Tweets?

Good job

Well, since I couldn't understand your housing market theories, I had to look elsewhere.

 

[Allan]

From there manifesto it sounds like a few greedy oil barons do not like it when they are told they have to be concerned about the environment.

Tempest in a teapot. Alberta has always had a small disgruntled minority.

The OP gets all his news from YouTube and Twitter so has no idea what's going on in Canada and demonstrates it with every OP.

 

[MamboDervish]

What kind of future could Alberta have outside of Canada, whether it chooses to become an independent country, or whether it chooses to join the United States?

It isn't likely to become "an independent country" because it is landlocked. That means it would continue to be totally dependent on Canada, the US, or both, so any fantasies about being able to dictate its own future instantly vaporize the moment it is "set free".

If, on the other hand, it could convince BC to secede with it, then it could become a very strong country, and be viable as soon as it can build it's own pipeline, and storage, or a refinery, on the BC coast.

 

[sanman]

It isn't likely to become "an independent country" because it is landlocked. That means it would continue to be totally dependent on Canada, the US, or both, so any fantasies about being able to dictate its own future instantly vaporize the moment it is "set free".

If, on the other hand, it could convince BC to secede with it, then it could become a very strong country, and be viable as soon as it can build it's own pipeline, and storage, or a refinery, on the BC coast.

There are other landlocked countries in the world. Additionally, it's not clear that other parts of a remaining Canada would continue to remain in it, if Alberta leaves, and so does Quebec.
I think that if Alberta left, then Quebec is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

But Albertans do share an affinity with Americans, and it's possible that they could join the United States.
At that point, then it's only a matter of time and practical necessity before territorial connectivity is established with Alaska.

 

[Sven Karma]

Idaho could secede as well and together could form one big non-contiguous landlocked state combining oil-baron capitalism and f**k your little brother for Christ neo-Nazis is one idyllic mega-paradise.

 

[Allan]

But Albertans do share an affinity with Americans, and it's possible that they could join the United States.

Delusional bullshit.

 

[soylentgreen]

Tempest in a teapot. Alberta has always had a small disgruntled minority.

The OP gets all his news from YouTube and Twitter so has no idea what's going on in Canada and demonstrates it with every OP.

Still, from that list of demands it sounds like they want to do a trump style "drill baby, drill" And screw the environment while they are at it.

 

[sanman]

Delusional bullshit.

Canada's wheels are already falling off, and you can't seem to figure that out.
Trying to import more people with a human-trafficking racket won't save it. Ponzi Schemes never make things better, only worse in the end.
You're whirling around, flailing wildly, lashing out at new and different things every day. The desperation is growing, even while your bank accounts go down.
Do you own any US investments, Allan? You're going to need them.

 

[Allan]

Canada's wheels are already falling off, and you can't seem to figure that out.
Trying to import more people with a human-trafficking racket won't save it. Ponzi Schemes never make things better, only worse in the end.
You're whirling around, flailing wildly, lashing out at new and different things every day. The desperation is growing, even while your bank accounts go down.
Do you own any US investments, Allan? You're going to need them.

Delusional bullshit.

 

[sanman]

Delusional bullshit.

From you, it's repetitive bullshit.
Come up with something new. Or are you too lazy to debate anymore?
Debate, or pack it in.

 

[Allan]

From you, it's repetitive bullshit.
Come up with something new. Or are you too lazy to debate anymore?
Debate, or pack it in.

Your posts are complete nonsense. Can't be bothered other than to do what everyone else around here does - mock everything you type.

 

[MamboDervish]

There are other landlocked countries in the world.

REALLY ?? I didn't know that!
(that was sarcasm!)

Additionally, it's not clear that other parts of a remaining Canada would continue to remain in it, if Alberta leaves, and so does Quebec.
I think that if Alberta left, then Quebec is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Well, Quebec has been trying to leave for my entire long life. They do enjoy a certain amount of autonomy the other provinces do not.

But Albertans do share an affinity with Americans, and it's possible that they could join the United States.

Why? Because they have cowboys and listen to country music?

At that point, then it's only a matter of time and practical necessity before territorial connectivity is established with Alaska.

There has never been any "practical necessity" for Alaska to be connected to the lower 48. They've gotten along just fine for generations. It's not as if air, sea, and the Al-Can highway have somehow deprived either one.

The argument you are making would be the same as the one Putin would make for overrunning any country between Mother Russia and the Kaliningrad Oblast.

 

[Sven Karma]

Canada's wheels are already falling off, and you can't seem to figure that out.
Trying to import more people with a human-trafficking racket won't save it. Ponzi Schemes never make things better, only worse in the end.
You're whirling around, flailing wildly, lashing out at new and different things every day. The desperation is growing, even while your bank accounts go down.
Do you own any US investments, Allan? You're going to need them.

"Every accusation is a confession"

 

[sanman]

"Every accusation is a confession"

I confess that Canada's wheels are falling off. You need to as well, as confession is good for us all. The Truth Shall Set You Free.

Trying to pursue a human-trafficking racket just to suck life into a failing system is not going to keep it alive. It's just cruel, and will only perpetrate more cruelty on others.
Ponzi scheme can't work. Learn to understand physics and reality.

 

[Allan]

"Every accusation is a confession"

Yup.

Q1 GDP
Canada +0.4%
US -0.3%

Also set a new import/export record last month.

But @sanman doesn't know any of this from his careful research of Twitter replies.

 

[Brusan]

Yup.

Q1 GDP
Canada +0.4%
US -0.3%

Also set a new import/export record last month.

But @sanman doesn't know any of this from his careful research of Twitter replies.

Every day the World news is reporting another negative for the U.S. Tourism is tanking from everywhere. Conventions are being cancelled in both countries.

Canada is picking up Medical professionals and research scientists disgusted with Trump's dismantling of their specialties.
leaving the U.S.
Major corps are dropping American legal firms because they lacked any "fight" in taking on Trump. legal firms losing business

Every day there's some new issue the U.S. is facing due to Trump's idiotic policies.

Trump is single handedly Making China Great Again while taking the U.S. into the toilet.

 

[OlNate]

What kind of future could Alberta have outside of Canada, whether it chooses to become an independent country, or whether it chooses to join the United States?

Some notable tweets now circulating

Albertan independence is a mouth breather's fantasy.

They cannot get past the treaties, they don't have the numbers, and even if they did, they'd simply be absorbed into America, and find out what not being given a shit about really feels like.

There is no future for Alberta outside of Canada. The end.

 

[sanman]

Albertan independence is a mouth breather's fantasy.

They cannot get past the treaties, they don't have the numbers, and even if they did, they'd simply be absorbed into America, and find out what not being given a shit about really feels like.

There is no future for Alberta outside of Canada. The end.

There is no future for a Canada that's counter-aligned to the United States. The end.
What treaties? USMCA was a treaty, and now it isn't. Too bad for you. Their numbers are better than Greenland.
Without the United States backing it, Canada's military is about the same as Greenland's.
An independent Alberta would be preferable to an Alberta that's part of a Canada that's counter-aligned to the United States.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Tempest in a teapot. Alberta has always had a small disgruntled minority.

The OP gets all his news from YouTube and Twitter so has no idea what's going on in Canada and demonstrates it with every OP.

Alberta as the 51st state. Has a nice ring to it.

 

[OlNate]

There is no future for a Canada that's counter-aligned to the United States. The end.

Well, I guess we're in trouble, because it's pretty clear that America is counter-aligned to us. Notice how all of us are shaking in our boots?

What treaties? USMCA was a treaty, and now it isn't. Too bad for you. Their numbers are better than Greenland.

The treaties with the indigenous people of Canada. And sorry, just because you support a guy that wipes his ass with your commitments, it doesn't mean Canada has sunk to that level of sketch.

Without the United States backing it, Canada's military is about the same as Greenland's.

Without aiding America we would have no enemies.

An independent Alberta would be preferable to an Alberta that's part of a Canada that's counter-aligned to the United States.

An independent Alberta is about as likely as Donald Trump coming to my house tonight and giving me the Qatar plane.

 

[Allan]

Alberta as the 51st state. Has a nice ring to it.

 

[sanman]

Well, I guess we're in trouble, because it's pretty clear that America is counter-aligned to us.

You've been in trouble for a long time. I don't see anyone else in this hemisphere with this much discussion of separatism and breakup.

Where was your prime minister educated again? Wasn't mainly in your country.

Notice how all of us are shaking in our boots?

I understand - you feel numbness is the best way to face your end.

The treaties with the indigenous people of Canada.

Those numbers add up to less than Greenland.

And sorry, just because you support a guy that wipes his ass with your commitments, it doesn't mean Canada has sunk to that level of sketch.

If you were above that level, you wouldn't be hanging by a thread right now.
When did you create your Bill of Rights? (excuse me, "charter") In the 1980s? Shows how Rights were an Afterthought to your country.
Americans did it through their sharp break with the British empire, in the form of the American Revolution. Canadians simply vaguely drifted away from the British, no revolution or break.
Your modern state is therefore based on the legacy of the British empire, and we can see what a defunct relic that is. That's why there's a Quebec that wants to separate, and an Alberta too.

Without aiding America we would have no enemies.

As a relic of the British which never evolved significantly, your contradictions have been left to fester.
Resorting to human-trafficking as your Ponzi Scheme stunt to extricate yourself from that predicament has only put you from the frying pan into the fire.

An independent Alberta is about as likely as Donald Trump coming to my house tonight and giving me the Qatar plane.

The one-sided draining of Alberta's wealth by Ottawa while shoving toxic Woke culture down their throats ensures that a breach is coming.
And it's not only them who want to go. Won't take much to lose your east, either.
Keep playing your fiddle, little emperor.