Alberta independence vote

[Simpletruther]

This was not on my radar. Anyone in the know?

What are the chances?

 

[Phys251]

This was not on my radar. Anyone in the know?

What are the chances?

Link?

 

[Safiel]

Right now, the Canadian courts are considering the legality of allowing such a referendum.

But even if they approve, the chances of it passing are miniscule.

 

[Simpletruther]

Right now, the Canadian courts are considering the legality of allowing such a referendum.

But even if they approve, the chances of it passing are miniscule.

Self determination should be allowed.

 

[joluoto]

Self determination should be allowed.

Where to? That prison in El Salvador?

 

[Simpletruther]

Where to? That prison in El Salvador?

To freedom

 

[joluoto]

To freedom

Where should the Albertans self deport to find freedom?

 

[Along Came Jones]

Right now, the Canadian courts are considering the legality of allowing such a referendum.

But even if they approve, the chances of it passing are miniscule.

During May CBC News asked a sample of 1,200 people, would Alberta be better off if separated from Canada? 30 percent agreed. 57 percent disagreed. Same result as a similar poll conducted five years earlier. Does not look good for the separatists.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Where should the Albertans self deport to find freedom?

Montana.
The vote has no chance of passing, it is a rural protest vote. Rural areas it could get 40% of the vote, in cities less than 25%.

It would open up many legal issues regarding first nations whose treaties are with the federal government not the provincial. Legally if the treaties are broken the land would revert to the original owners ( ie first nation's) and that covers basically the entire province. Meaning all the land would belong to first the various first nation treaty groups.

Unless of course Albertan want to steal the property from the owners like communists

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

I am an Albertan born and raised,

The current Premier is a nut,

 

[joluoto]

Montana.
The vote has no chance of passing, it is a rural protest vote. Rural areas it could get 40% of the vote, in cities less than 25%.

It would open up many legal issues regarding first nations whose treaties are with the federal government not the provincial. Legally if the treaties are broken the land would revert to the original owners ( ie first nation's) and that covers basically the entire province. Meaning all the land would belong to first the various first nation treaty groups.

Unless of course Albertan want to steal the property from the owners like communists

I for one support the Democratic People's Republic of Greater Alberta.

 

[Simpletruther]

Where should the Albertans self deport to find freedom?

They shouldn't have to.

 

[Questerr]

To freedom

What “freedom”?

 

[Simpletruther]

What “freedom”?

Self determination

 

[Questerr]

Self determination

Self determining themselves to be what? A completely landlocked country that will still be reliant on Canada? Or a US puppet state?

 

[Simpletruther]

Self determining themselves to be what? A completely landlocked country that will still be reliant on Canada? Or a US puppet state?

If they want to yea. Or tough it out on their own.
With all the oil , don't thing so reliant

 

[Questerr]

If they want to yea. Or tough it out on their own.
With all the oil , don't thing so reliant

How do they get that oil to market without relying on the US or Canada?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Self determination

To what level,

Can cities leave a country, how about parts of a state or province?

If Alberta leaves Canada, can southern Alberta leave Alberta, could the various first nations leave Alberta and take treaty lands with them

 

[Along Came Jones]

To what level,

Can cities leave a country, how about parts of a state or province?

If Alberta leaves Canada, can southern Alberta leave Alberta, could the various first nations leave Alberta and take treaty lands with them

I suppose you might need a small civil war to decisively settle the matter. We had ours. Mexico had the Republic of Yucatán, the Republic of the Rio Grande, and still has a sweltering Chiapas. Someone has to win and the winner usually decides who must stay or is permitted to leave.

 

[Linc]

Yes?! https://globalnews.ca/news/11307885/alberta-separatism-referendum-question-judge-referral/amp/

Link?

been there, twice, unreal drive from unreal Glacier Waterton all the way to Alaska thru Alberta, Banff, Jasper, oil change in Calgary,

ask them how they feel about Quebec plates in Alberta getting quota jobs

 

[Linc]

I suppose you might need a small civil war to decisively settle the matter. We had ours. Mexico had the Republic of Yucatán, the Republic of the Rio Grande, and still has a sweltering Chiapas. Someone has to win and the winner usually decides who must stay or is permitted to leave.

our xtry has never been the same since our uncivil war and never will be

 

[Linc]

They shouldn't have to.

why doesn’t Mitt Romney get credit for his phrase “self-deportation”?

 

[Questerr]

To what level,

Can cities leave a country, how about parts of a state or province?

If Alberta leaves Canada, can southern Alberta leave Alberta, could the various first nations leave Alberta and take treaty lands with them

This is why I find conservatives’ “states rights” nonsense to be absurd.

If Texas seceded from America, do the Blue cities in the Texas have the right to counter-secede and stay in America?

 

[Along Came Jones]

This is why I find conservatives’ “states rights” nonsense to be absurd.

If Texas seceded from America, do the Blue cities in the Texas have the right to counter-secede and stay in America?

Our northwestern states would be a better stage on which to ask the question. 1 in 4 Washingtonians wants state to secede, new survey shows, Seattle Times, 4/4/2024 and Secession: Why some in Oregon want to become part of Idaho, CBS News, 9/3/2023.

At their convention the Texas Republican Party voted to add a call for a plebiscite on whether we should go or stay. Nobody, certainly not the Republican regime running things, takes the plank serious enough to even repeat it in public. Separatists here are pretty much treated as clowns with phantasmagorical dreams.

 

[Questerr]

Our northwestern states would be a better stage on which to ask the question. 1 in 4 Washingtonians wants state to secede, new survey shows, Seattle Times, 4/4/2024 and Secession: Why some in Oregon want to become part of Idaho, CBS News, 9/3/2023.

At their convention the Texas Republican Party voted to add a call for a plebiscite on whether we should go or stay. Nobody, certainly not the Republican regime running things, takes the plank serious enough to even repeat it in public. Separatists here are pretty treated as clowns with phantasmagorical dreams.

The parts of Washington and Oregon that want to secede are the red county areas that are net takers of taxes. They would quickly regret joining Idaho.