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Al Gore Accused of "Unwanted Sexual Contact" in 2006, Authorities Say

Gill said:
No problem......


http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/19911-hillary-commenting-abuse-women.html#post539524
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Yeah, that's not what you said. So where's the quote YOU accused me of saying?

I mean, you're stating unequivocally that I "believe" something. Surely there must be some quote where you can provide the foundation of this belief.

Unless you think that "demand" and "force" and "entice" all mean the same thing? Is that where your confusion lies?

Not to mention that I've never said that anyone who does anything won't have consequences. There are ALWAYS consequences to one's actions.
 
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Gill said:
Read her statement and you'll have your answers.
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You are correct - should have looked there first. Got to page 11. Did you read it? Does it seem weird to you? I have not read a lot of police reports but it seems very stilted for a conversaton. Maybe it is the way the transcript comes out.
 
VanceMack said:
Bill Clinton/Paula Jones

next case....
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A swing and a miss!


1. Jones never reported the incident to hotel security, just like Gore's masseuse.

2. Three years later, and ONLY when the Brock story naming her as the one making advances was published, did she suddenly come up with the "Clinton propositioned me" story. Sorta like the Gore-masseuse's claims well after the fact.

3. I'm not giving Clinton or Gore a pass here; nor am I giving Jones or Gore's masseuse a pass. But Jones' years-old accusations sound a lot like the masseuse's, don't they?

VanceMack said:
If it doesnt get reported at the time of the incident just what secret magical powers do hotel security guards have to spook out the event and the facts?
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Were you maybe expecting hotel security to start an investigation three (or more) years after a non-reported incident? :roll: Common sense would indicate that if nothing was reported at the time of the incident, nothing would have been investigated by hotel security. :doh Neither Jones nor this masseuse made complaints at the time of the incidents - it's only years later that they came up with these accusations.

That in itself makes me question the validity of their claims.
 

If you saw from the beginning I stated I DONT KNOW what happened in a Portland hotel room (any more than any other person here). My comment to you is that it is ludicrous for you tro come in here and claim...bah...this would NEVER happen because hotel security would know everything. Hotel security is hotel security. I wont even be dismissive of them...but they can only act on what they KNOW (which you apparently agree to) so therefore it lends no credence to the discussion on IF it could have happened.
 

So you were one of the Clinton faithful who didn't believe any of these women until that stained dress showed up.

Sad. Very sad.

and dude, don't use an open source link as your "evidence" Thats really weak.
 
satandog said:
You are correct - should have looked there first. Got to page 11. Did you read it? Does it seem weird to you? I have not read a lot of police reports but it seems very stilted for a conversaton. Maybe it is the way the transcript comes out.
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Yes, it seems stilted, but I believe this would be normal under the circumstances.

The whole thing is weird to me, just like:

  • Clinton groping women and demanding sexual favors
  • Dick Morris sucking hookers' toes
  • Larry Craig playing footsie in the men's room

Like I said earlier, when men obtain this much power and status, many feel they can take whatever they wish.
 
texmaster said:
He has cheated on his wife. Thats not a stretch.

You aren't one of the people who thought slick Willy was innocent until the dress was found are you?
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Why is it that the "very conservative" seem to be so upset with the liberals sex capers ??
Is this part of the price one pays for being "conservative"??
I fail to see any liberals biting the head of conservatives when they act as normal humans.....or do they???
Anyway, the whole thing is just too silly and beneath the dignity of gentlemen.
 

Hypocrisy once again... Maybe I should run and edit my posts after the fact like you did to CYA.
 

I can't believe you actually posted this..... :shock:
 
earthworm said:
Why is it that the "very conservative" seem to be so upset with the liberals sex capers ?? Is this part of the price one pays for being "conservative"??
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Where did I say I'm upset? Oh thats right, nowhere. Way to make stuff up.

I fail to see any liberals biting the head of conservatives when they act as normal humans.....or do they???
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LOL!!! Ah to live in never never land. Whats that like? Mark Sanford, Newt, and the list goes on. If you think liberals don't make a big deal when conservatives stray you took the blue pill dude
 
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You need to attend a reading comprehension course. I neither said nor implied that "this would NEVER happen because hotel security would know everything."

What I did say was that if a woman complained to hotel staff that she was the victim of unwanted sexual advances, hotel security would investigate immediately and without prejudice.

Try to keep up, eh?
 
texmaster said:
So you were one of the Clinton faithful who didn't believe any of these women until that stained dress showed up.
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You should keep your day job; being a mind reader just isn't working for you.

I absolutely believe that Clinton was a womanizer. What I don't believe is Paula Jones' questionable story.
 
Glinda said:
You should keep your day job; being a mind reader just isn't working for you.

I absolutely believe that Clinton was a womanizer. What I don't believe is Paula Jones' questionable story.
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The question is did you believe that at the time or after the fact?

Gore has already cheated on his wife. Why is this such a stretch for you?
 
Gill said:
Hypocrisy once again... Maybe I should run and edit my posts after the fact like you did to CYA.
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WTF are you talking about now? I would LOVE for you to point out this hypocrisy you keep accusing me of.

Or are you just here to make unfounded allegations, put words in people's mouths, and accuse them of saying something they didn't say? They have a word for that: Trolling.
 
Glinda said:
What I did say was that if a woman complained to hotel staff that she was the victim of unwanted sexual advances, hotel security would investigate immediately and without prejudice.
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Like this hotel security chief did ??

 
texmaster said:
The question is did you believe that at the time or after the fact?
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I'll say it again, please try to keep up: I believe Clinton was a womanizer (well before he became president). What I have trouble believing is why any woman would wait years to complain of an unwanted sexual advance - from Jones, from Gore's masseuse, from ANY woman.

texmaster said:
Gore has already cheated on his wife. Why is this such a stretch for you?
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You just don't get it do you? :doh

I don't question the possibility that Gore (or Clinton or a large number of the males on the planet) made unwanted sexual advances to women who were not their wives. What I question is why any woman would wait to report it, particularly in this Gore-masseuse case. If Gore's actions were so egregious, what legitimate reason would the woman have to NOT report it? Why the hell would she stick around for more... unless those advances weren't exactly "unwanted?"
 
Looks like Algore is creating extra CO2, he'll have to issue himself a credit now.
 

They are part of the majority.

Thousands of women wait months or years to report rapes or sexual assaults.

94% of sexual assaults on women are never reported at all.
 
Glinda said:
Why the hell would she stick around for more... unless those advances weren't exactly "unwanted?"
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THAT is the real question. That and the fact that she went for money instead of criminal charges.
 
rivrrat said:
THAT is the real question. That and the fact that she went for money instead of criminal charges.
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Yeah, you're probably right.. she asked for it.

Was probably wearing a really short dress too......:roll:
 

Did you read what Paula Jones described? Its the exact same thing LBJ would do with women. How you think its invalid because a a young girl in her early 20s didn't report the governor of the state she lived in to the authorities? Is that really that hard to grasp for you?



What are you talking about? She reported it that night to police.
 
Glinda said:
Not with the heads of hotel security that I've known. Hard-core conservatives types to a one.
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So you know every head of security in every hotel everywhere. Got it. :thumbs:
 
Gill the 94% of rapes that aren't reported aren't true at all. From the Rape statistics 39% of rapes are reported.

Rape Statistics


Here are are stats that prove that 94% bulls **** is not true.


Something is fishy about this story, and with logical thinking you can poke holes in to her story very easily. I'm not going to say that I beleive it with out more information, and the fact the police investigated and didn't charge him because of lack of evidence.
 
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Gill said:
Like this hotel security chief did ??
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McNulty never told Hyder she was raped, so there was no reason for him to investigate anything. :doh



Further, McNulty never filed a police report, and only initiated a civil suit more than a year after the alleged rape occurred. I wonder why she waited? Hmmmm.
 
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