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[Rexedgar]

Without giving any state secrets away, does anyone know what AF 1 have as a phalanx during international travel?

 

[pragmatic]

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The term "phalanx" in relation to Air Force One refers to a military formation, not the aircraft itself. It's not a specific plane or type of plane. "Phalanx" typically describes a compact military unit standing shoulder to shoulder, or a close-knit group of people. It's a general term used to describe a dense, organized formation, not a specific aircraft like Air Force One. Air Force One, on the other hand, is a designation for any Air Force aircraft carrying the U.S. President.


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[Lord Tammerlain]

Without giving any state secrets away, does anyone know what AF 1 have as a phalanx during international travel?

Do you mean kinetic defense systems like guns or missiles on board or F35 / F22 fighters serving as guards?

I don't believe AF1 has any kinetic kill systems (ie guns or missiles ) to take out enemy planes or missiles

 

[Rexedgar]

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The term "phalanx" in relation to Air Force One refers to a military formation, not the aircraft itself. It's not a specific plane or type of plane. "Phalanx" typically describes a compact military unit standing shoulder to shoulder, or a close-knit group of people. It's a general term used to describe a dense, organized formation, not a specific aircraft like Air Force One. Air Force One, on the other hand, is a designation for any Air Force aircraft carrying the U.S. President.


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Phalanx is a protective cordon.

Phalanx.
1.
a body of troops or police officers standing or moving in close formation.
"six hundred marchers set off, led by a phalanx of police"

Do you mean kinetic defense systems like guns or missiles on board or F35 / F22 fighters serving as guards?

I don't believe AF1 has any kinetic kill systems (ie guns or missiles ) to take out enemy planes or missiles

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Phalanx is a protective cordon.

Phalanx.
1.
a body of troops or police officers standing or moving in close formation.
"six hundred marchers set off, led by a phalanx of police"

The reason I asked is that the phalanx CIWS exists for defense against missiles primarily and wanted to ensure no confusion

 

[Rich2018]

I think you mean some kind od od CIWS ?

 

[Girlpower]

Without giving any state secrets away, does anyone know what AF 1 have as a phalanx during international travel?

AF1 is not a missile platform, it has no known weapons systems on board (although it does have defensive measures). The Phalanx system is a naval close-in weapon system only used with ships.

 

[Bodi]

Without giving any state secrets away, does anyone know what AF 1 have as a phalanx during international travel?

Just a legion of Roman Centurions ....


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[Risky Thicket]

My uncle piloted Doomsday that accompanied AF1. He didn’t say a great deal about it. I didn’t have need to know. When he flew I don’t believe AF1 routinely had a fighter escort.

Interestingly Richard Nixon flew to Saigon in 1970 but not on AF1. Air Force One flew into Cam Ranh and parked on the ramp as a decoy which pissed off all the ramp rats on the flight line. No one liked the idea of being used as red flag waving at Victor Charles. lol

 

[Rich2018]

I think you mean some kind od CIWS ?

"Of".

 

[Risky Thicket]

Now I'm curious. Here is an answer that is helpful though the article is dated. No matter, if anything we should assume that the technology has been updated and much improved.

On 911 immediately after being interrupted during his reading My Pet Goat President Bush was rushed to Air Force One and was airborne ASAP. As far as we know this is one of the most dangerous events we have seen in our lifetime. It would make sense to follow Bush's movements on that day.

Bush and whatever aircraft accompanied AF 1 circled around for a while trying to determine the safest place for the President. The flew around for a while and landed at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. Barksdale would be a logical place to land due to Barksdale security (they have nukes there and some on the ramp alert ready). Barksdale doesn't mess around.

Bush remained there for a while until it was decided to fly to another very secure base, Offutt, in Nebraska. Offutt previously Strategic Air Command Headquarters (SAC) and now US Strategic Command (STRATCOM) Headquarters. At Offutt all the President needed to monitor and conduct necessary actions were permanently in place. Security designed and known for its ability to respond to such an incredible event as 911 was well trained and ready within minutes of notification of his arrival.

Here is an article about Bush, AF 1 and what transpired that day. We know from the article that the E-4 that accompanies AF 1 did also land Offutt, as we would expect. I don't know about other accompanying aircraft. What, how many, where did they go, did they remain in the air? Who knows? I doubt the Air Force would like to share that information. At any rate this linked article provides some insight as to AF 1 when the shit hits the fan.

This information might give you some insight, GIRLPOWER, as to how the US military trains and trains and trains and trains to be prepared for even the unexpected. Constitutionally compliant orders are in place and ready if needed at a moments notice. You practice for it no matter if you're laying in ambush in a cold wet ditch or steaming across or under the sea or responding to alert signals in the air. Every person involved from support to implementation is critical. They are well trained, well disciplined and ready to respond. Everyone depends on everyone to do their job. Those who serve and those who served are very proud of that.

 

[Rich2018]

Interestingly Richard Nixon flew to Saigon in 1970 but not on AF1. Air Force One flew into Cam Ranh and parked on the ramp as a decoy which pissed off all the ramp rats on the flight line. No one liked the idea of being used as red flag waving at Victor Charles. lol

I didn't know that, did he use AF 2 ?

 

[Gaius46]

I didn't know that, did he use AF 2 ?

AF1 isn't a specific aircraft. It's the call sign of any USAF jet that the President is on. Similarly Marine 1 is any USMC aircraft that POTUS is on.

There is also a call sign Executive 1 for any civilian aircraft the President is on but I don't think it's been used in years.

That said AF1 is typically one of the VC-25s (?) that the USAF operates for Presidential travel but it doesn't have to be.

 

[Rich2018]

AF1 isn't a specific aircraft. It's the call sign of any USAF jet that the President is on. Similarly Marine 1 is any USMC aircraft that POTUS is on.

There is also a call sign Executive 1 for any civilian aircraft the President is on but I don't think it's been used in years.

That said AF1 is typically one of the VC-25s (?) that the USAF operates for Presidential travel but it doesn't have to be.

Yes and no, the Air Force reserve an aircraft specifically to carry the president.

 

[Risky Thicket]

I didn't know that, did he use AF 2 ?

My understanding was that the decoy landed at Cam Ranh all tarted up like AF 1 and an unmarked or less obvious airplane landed at Tan Son Nhuty. I know the decoy flew into Cam Ranh. What I still have a problem with is that it would be insane to fly in the real AF 1 or whatever as a decoy. But we're talking Vietnam and Richard Nixon so insanity abounds.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I would just like to know if it's been painted all gold inside.