After Paris: Dump Trump and Support Christie

[Jack Hays]

not so sure bridgegate is in christie's past

I am.

 

[Absentglare]

Hays the FBI just investigates and reports. They do not indict.

There is no way a DEM AG will indict Hillary no matter what the evidence says.

I don't know why you would believe that, but i do know that it's not based on facts or evidence.

 

[justabubba]

anybody else waste a third of an hour listening to christie's speech
he NEVER identified even one thing he would do differently than Obama
but he did whine about our president
referring to him as a lawless president. accusing him of operating a lawless imperial presidency. without offering any facts to support his bold accusation. some former federal prosecutor. but then this incompetent was a dicknbush appointee
christie had the audacity to say such a thing given the ongoing investigation into his administration's corrupt activities
that fat assed, mob influenced, son of a bitch is responsible for tolerating bridgegate - if he did not direct it
george will is desperate to put up the likes of christie as a viable republican presidential candidate

 

[Riveroaks]

I don't know why you would believe that, but i do know that it's not based on facts or evidence.

Simply a political observation.

The FBI is very professional and they will not leak.

The White House is very political so the AG will not indict Hillary.

Political Science 101.

 

[justabubba]

Simply a political observation.

The FBI is very professional and they will not leak.

The White House is very political so the AG will not indict Hillary.

Political Science 101.

FBI personnel who are retiring have nothing to lose by disclosing insider information to their media favorites
and others are able to share with those already retired, who then leak it to the media
as a (non-FBI) retiree, i do this for my union, because the current employees would suffer risk of retaliation that i do not because of my retiree status

 

[Absentglare]

Simply a political observation.

The FBI is very professional and they will not leak.

The White House is very political so the AG will not indict Hillary.

Political Science 101.

It's a hunch/prediction, sure, i can't prove it false.

But you certainly can't be said to know it to be true.

 

[Riveroaks]

It's a hunch/prediction, sure, i can't prove it false.

But you certainly can't be said to know it to be true.

There is very little that I actually know.

Cogito ergo sum.

Cogito ergo cognito.

But I seriously doubt Hillary will ever be prosecuted for anything by anybody.

Between now and the election The White House will support her -- it's their duty one and all.

After the election she will be either POTUS or not.

If POTUS she is immune from prosecution.

If not elected nobody will care anymore.

Ryan seems like a reasonable guy, unlike Boehner, so Ryan won't waste the time or money.

 

[reinoe]

Where do you get all this insider knowledge from ???

Insider knowledge? Listen to him talk. He's a big advocate for warrantless surveillance who wouldn't hesistate to move us closer to a police state.

 

[Riveroaks]

Insider knowledge? Listen to him talk. He's a big advocate for warrantless surveillance who wouldn't hesistate to move us closer to a police state.

Well that must be from his northeastern USA culture. They're as communist or worse than California.

 

[PeteEU]

Christie is just another out of touch idiot. My father actually liked him and was trying to convince me he was the right person.. until 10 minutes ago when Christie on CNN starts talking about the "female suicide bomber" in Paris.. there was none. If he cant stick to basic facts then frankly **** him.

 

[Moderate Right]

I like Christie myself but he isn't even capable of carrying his own state, not a good situation if you really want to beat Hillary.

 

[Jack Hays]

I like Christie myself but he isn't even capable of carrying his own state, not a good situation if you really want to beat Hillary.

The Repubs have not counted on carrying NJ for decades, and I suspect he would at least put it in play.

 

[Moderate Right]

I guess my point is the Republicans do have candidates who would be capable of carrying an important purple state, such as Ohio or Florida. Christie doesn't have any advantage in those states, or any state for that matter. Beating Hillary won't be easy so it might be good to have a combination of Kasich, Rubio, or Bush on the ticket to try getting those two important states.

 

[Jack Hays]

I guess my point is the Republicans do have candidates who would be capable of carrying an important purple state, such as Ohio or Florida. Christie doesn't have any advantage in those states, or any state for that matter. Beating Hillary won't be easy so it might be good to have a combination of Kasich, Rubio, or Bush on the ticket to try getting those two important states.

That's a fair point.

 

[eohrnberger]

Trump, Carson, and Fiorina have surprising momentum considering their complete absence of any public experience.

It frightens me to consider that being less experienced is a plus among republican voters.

Careful there. People in glass houses and all. The Democrats / liberal / progressives elected Obama and he had much less experience than Christie, unless you count all those years as a community organizer.

Christi not only has federal district attorney experience (so he knows the law and how it works), he also has executive experience as Govoner, and he's in a very blue state and has been dealing with a blue state legislature, with some, but not unlimited, success. These are all positive attributes for being POTUS.

The negatives are that at this moment, he's not got a lot of traction with the electorate, based on the polling results. That in and of itself can change literally over night.

There's still a ways to go in this primary, and no one has won anything yet. Not even the first primary, and we've seen wild swings of momentum from one primary to the next.

 

[sanman]

Christie is polling in the single digits.

It's Trump all the way - he's fully capable of clobbering Hillary. He can crush her in debate - his personality is refreshingly strong and plainspeaking - I love it.

Trump doesn't let even the media boss him around. You can't boss Trump - he IS THE BOSS.

 

[Absentglare]

Careful there. People in glass houses and all. The Democrats / liberal / progressives elected Obama and he had much less experience than Christie, unless you count all those years as a community organizer.

Christi not only has federal district attorney experience (so he knows the law and how it works), he also has executive experience as Govoner, and he's in a very blue state and has been dealing with a blue state legislature, with some, but not unlimited, success. These are all positive attributes for being POTUS.

The negatives are that at this moment, he's not got a lot of traction with the electorate, based on the polling results. That in and of itself can change literally over night.

There's still a ways to go in this primary, and no one has won anything yet. Not even the first primary, and we've seen wild swings of momentum from one primary to the next.

I'm not criticizing Christie's experience, i'm applauding it. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[eohrnberger]

I'm not criticizing Christie's experience, i'm applauding it. Sorry for the confusion.

Sorry, must have missed that somehow. No blood no foul.

 

[Absentglare]

Sorry, must have missed that somehow. No blood no foul.

Yup i actually like Kasich, Graham, and Christie.

I know i'm "supposed" to be a loyal liberal, but if any of those three goes up against Hillary, my vote is still up for grabs. I try to care more about the issues than the letter next to their name, but it's not always easy.

 

[eohrnberger]

Yup i actually like Kasich, Graham, and Christie.

I know i'm "supposed" to be a loyal liberal, but if any of those three goes up against Hillary, my vote is still up for grabs. I try to care more about the issues than the letter next to their name, but it's not always easy.

You are certainly right on that one. I've had to hold my nose while in the voting booth, not so much because of the R or the D, but mainly because whom I was voting for had some positions that I really didn't agree with, but in the end voted the way I did also including the majority of the positions on the issues. Yeah, there are always those few issues where the candidate's position is nearly intolerable. :shurg: Guess that's about as close as it gets to the ideal candidate.

 

[RAMOSS]

Trump, Carson, and Fiorina have surprising momentum considering their complete absence of any public experience.

It frightens me to consider that being less experienced is a plus among republican voters.

Fiorina has pretty much disappeared from the radar right now, and I would be surprised if she recovers. Carson took a significant drop in the last week, with most of them going to Trump.

 

[ellesdee]

I was enthralled with Christie early on. I thought he could be the consensus builder that we need.

Bridge gate.

End of story.

The honeymoon with Christie ended earlier than that for most conservatives. It was when he praised Obama for his help with Sandy. Partisans don't like their candidates acting bipartisan.