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After Paris: Dump Trump and Support Christie

Jack Hays

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This is a powerful point. These times call for a serious President, not a puerile bloviator.

After Paris, Republicans Should Look to Christie
George Will, Washington Post

Paris was for all Americans, but especially for Republicans, a summons to seriousness that should have two immediate impacts on the Republican presidential contest. It should awaken the party’s nominating electorate from its reveries about treating the presidency as an entry-level job. And it should cause Republicans to take another look at Chris Christie, beginning with his speech in Florida the day after the Paris attacks.


Until now, many Republicans have been treating the nominating process as a mechanism for sending a message to Washington. The eruption of war in the capital of a NATO ally is a reminder that the nominating process will potentially send a commander in chief to Washington. This might, and should, hasten the eclipse of Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and especially Donald Trump. His coarse, vulgar and nasty 95-minute effusion last week in Fort Dodge, Iowa, answered this question: When he begins to fade, will he draw upon a hitherto well-hidden capacity for graciousness, or will he become a caricature of his normal persona, which itself is a caricature of democracy’s most embarrassing possibilities?


Watch Trump on YouTube and consider his manner in light of his stupendously unconservative proposal, made one day earlier, for a federal police force. (It would conduct about 500,000 deportations a month to remove approximately 11.4 million illegal immigrants in two years). Then watch Christie on YouTube and pay particular attention to his affirmation of the foundational conservative belief in the indispensability, the sovereignty and the prerogatives of nationhood. . . .
 
Jack Hays said:
This is a powerful point. These times call for a serious President, not a puerile bloviator.

After Paris, Republicans Should Look to Christie
George Will, Washington Post

Paris was for all Americans, but especially for Republicans, a summons to seriousness that should have two immediate impacts on the Republican presidential contest. It should awaken the party’s nominating electorate from its reveries about treating the presidency as an entry-level job. And it should cause Republicans to take another look at Chris Christie, beginning with his speech in Florida the day after the Paris attacks.


Until now, many Republicans have been treating the nominating process as a mechanism for sending a message to Washington. The eruption of war in the capital of a NATO ally is a reminder that the nominating process will potentially send a commander in chief to Washington. This might, and should, hasten the eclipse of Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and especially Donald Trump. His coarse, vulgar and nasty 95-minute effusion last week in Fort Dodge, Iowa, answered this question: When he begins to fade, will he draw upon a hitherto well-hidden capacity for graciousness, or will he become a caricature of his normal persona, which itself is a caricature of democracy’s most embarrassing possibilities?


Watch Trump on YouTube and consider his manner in light of his stupendously unconservative proposal, made one day earlier, for a federal police force. (It would conduct about 500,000 deportations a month to remove approximately 11.4 million illegal immigrants in two years). Then watch Christie on YouTube and pay particular attention to his affirmation of the foundational conservative belief in the indispensability, the sovereignty and the prerogatives of nationhood. . . .
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At some point the games will be over and the pretenders will have to go home. Whether you lean left or lean right you lean toward a candidate that actually understands government, the Constitution, American history, and how American government and the world actually works.

Its nearing time for this game of fantasy politics to end and for the voters to focus on the real statesman.
 
You have two chances

Slim and none

And slim just left town.....

The NJ fat man.....now that is funny......lmao
 
gdgyva said:
You have two chances

Slim and none

And slim just left town.....

The NJ fat man.....now that is funny......lmao
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As Curtis likes to call him, el heffe!
 
Jack Hays said:
This is a powerful point. These times call for a serious President, not a puerile bloviator.

After Paris, Republicans Should Look to Christie
George Will, Washington Post

Paris was for all Americans, but especially for Republicans, a summons to seriousness that should have two immediate impacts on the Republican presidential contest. It should awaken the party’s nominating electorate from its reveries about treating the presidency as an entry-level job. And it should cause Republicans to take another look at Chris Christie, beginning with his speech in Florida the day after the Paris attacks.


Until now, many Republicans have been treating the nominating process as a mechanism for sending a message to Washington. The eruption of war in the capital of a NATO ally is a reminder that the nominating process will potentially send a commander in chief to Washington. This might, and should, hasten the eclipse of Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and especially Donald Trump. His coarse, vulgar and nasty 95-minute effusion last week in Fort Dodge, Iowa, answered this question: When he begins to fade, will he draw upon a hitherto well-hidden capacity for graciousness, or will he become a caricature of his normal persona, which itself is a caricature of democracy’s most embarrassing possibilities?


Watch Trump on YouTube and consider his manner in light of his stupendously unconservative proposal, made one day earlier, for a federal police force. (It would conduct about 500,000 deportations a month to remove approximately 11.4 million illegal immigrants in two years). Then watch Christie on YouTube and pay particular attention to his affirmation of the foundational conservative belief in the indispensability, the sovereignty and the prerogatives of nationhood. . . .
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What is so special about a fat man who barely fits into the oval office compared with the other GOP candidates and Hillary Clinton ???
 
Riveroaks said:
What is so special about a fat man who barely fits into the oval office compared with the other GOP candidates and Hillary Clinton ???
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He's not the only good candidate, but he's impressive, and he's dropped about 100 pounds in the past year. HRC still has to get past the FBI.
 
Christie is one of the few candidates with actual government experience.

That gives him a considerable advantage in my eyes.
 
Absentglare said:
Christie is one of the few candidates with actual government experience.

That gives him a considerable advantage in my eyes.
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Ya, he's also been in politics long enough to be bought out.

Right now, republicans need to focus on keeping hillary out of the whitehouse.

And, while I'm not a fan of trump he's the one saying the right things that could actually pull enough people to take things the whole way...
Unless, he's actually a ringer for hillary... In which case, the country is f@cked regardless.
 
Chris Christie is a pretender and a chump. He's the type of two-faced hack who would denounce a national police force and then use any pretext to justify having a national police force if he were to ever be elected. Chris Christie is a shady, sinister, big government jackass.
 
Jack Hays said:
He's not the only good candidate, but he's impressive, and he's dropped about 100 pounds in the past year. HRC still has to get past the FBI.
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I was enthralled with Christie early on. I thought he could be the consensus builder that we need.

Bridge gate.

End of story.
 
reinoe said:
Chris Christie is a pretender and a chump. He's the type of two-faced hack who would denounce a national police force and then use any pretext to justify having a national police force if he were to ever be elected. Chris Christie is a shady, sinister, big government jackass.
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Where do you get all this insider knowledge from ???
 
Absentglare said:
Christie is one of the few candidates with actual government experience.

That gives him a considerable advantage in my eyes.
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All but the 3 "outsiders" have government experience.

That's a lot.

Hillary is Senate and Cabinet.

There are several other Senators and several governors as well.

Nothing magical about that this time around.
 
I like Chris Christie a lot. Trouble is he comes with some baggage and couldn't even win his home state in a presidential election. Not a good sign for those that want to beat Hillary.
 
Riveroaks said:
All but the 3 "outsiders" have government experience.

That's a lot.

Hillary is Senate and Cabinet.

There are several other Senators and several governors as well.

Nothing magical about that this time around.
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Trump, Carson, and Fiorina have surprising momentum considering their complete absence of any public experience.

It frightens me to consider that being less experienced is a plus among republican voters.
 
Jack Hays said:
This is a powerful point. These times call for a serious President, not a puerile bloviator.

After Paris, Republicans Should Look to Christie
George Will, Washington Post

Paris was for all Americans, but especially for Republicans, a summons to seriousness that should have two immediate impacts on the Republican presidential contest. It should awaken the party’s nominating electorate from its reveries about treating the presidency as an entry-level job. And it should cause Republicans to take another look at Chris Christie, beginning with his speech in Florida the day after the Paris attacks.


Until now, many Republicans have been treating the nominating process as a mechanism for sending a message to Washington. The eruption of war in the capital of a NATO ally is a reminder that the nominating process will potentially send a commander in chief to Washington. This might, and should, hasten the eclipse of Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and especially Donald Trump. His coarse, vulgar and nasty 95-minute effusion last week in Fort Dodge, Iowa, answered this question: When he begins to fade, will he draw upon a hitherto well-hidden capacity for graciousness, or will he become a caricature of his normal persona, which itself is a caricature of democracy’s most embarrassing possibilities?


Watch Trump on YouTube and consider his manner in light of his stupendously unconservative proposal, made one day earlier, for a federal police force. (It would conduct about 500,000 deportations a month to remove approximately 11.4 million illegal immigrants in two years). Then watch Christie on YouTube and pay particular attention to his affirmation of the foundational conservative belief in the indispensability, the sovereignty and the prerogatives of nationhood. . . .
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The problem is the idiots do think Trump is a serious contender who should be elected president.

It's all good because what will happen if the GOP nominate Trump is that Hillary will win by a landslide. She's actually better at this than Christie. So, win-win.
 
calamity said:
The problem is the idiots do think Trump is a serious contender who should be elected president.

It's all good because what will happen if the GOP nominate Trump is that Hillary will win by a landslide. She's actually better at this than Christie. So, win-win.
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She has to win the FBI primary first.
 
Riveroaks said:
Hays the FBI just investigates and reports. They do not indict.

There is no way a DEM AG will indict Hillary no matter what the evidence says.
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If the FBI turns up indictable evidence and the AG quashes the case for political reasons, watch how fast the leaks explode out of the FBI. Nearly as damaging as an indictment.
 
Jack Hays said:
If the FBI turns up indictable evidence and the AG quashes the case for political reasons, watch how fast the leaks explode out of the FBI. Nearly as damaging as an indictment.
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I don't think a serious FBI agent would leak it. That would ruin their careers.
 
Jack Hays said:
He's not the only good candidate, but he's impressive, and he's dropped about 100 pounds in the past year. HRC still has to get past the FBI.
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not so sure bridgegate is in christie's past
 
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