Thank goodness mr. Gross is back from Cuba after 5 horrible years.
You can think what you want of that, bringing illegal materials to a country that has rules clearly not allowing that is not smart. Jailing him instead of just deporting him was also a wrong decision from the Cuban authorities but that is now all solved because he is free.
It looks like president Obama is going to strive for better relations with Cuba because it does not look like the police of the past 54 years has worked. The US trades with just about any other country in the world and by any reasonable standard the embargo policy has failed.
What do you think? Was the embargo wrong or was it not the wrong decisions? Or was it right then and is it wrong to now continue it?
If it would have been spying yes, but for illegally importing the 15 years was way too harsh. If jail was warranted it should be in accordance with the economical offense he committed, not for spying.
I wonder, all those protesting politicians. Are they afraid of loosing the Cuban vote in Florida? Are they genuinely of the opinion that the embargo was an effective tool of changing the ways of the communist government of Cuba? Or are they so stuck in their ways that they afraid that the die hard pro-embargo people in their own party are going to cause them to loose votes? It was a pretty safe bet to be pro-embargo before now, maybe the tides will be turning when the American public turns out to not be against diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba?
I do not know but from some politicians I can respect that they are anti-lifting of the embargo (those with Cuban blood so to speak) but for most politicians I have little respect or understanding for wanting to prolong a policy that has neither worked nor been beneficial to the US people/Cuban Americans.
Are you familiar with how Cuba treats its criminals?
How can you say 15 years wasn't right?
It may have been a short sentence for a Cuban.
Another point is that you only know what the media is telling you.
I am sure there was more to the story than any of us know.
Thank goodness mr. Gross is back from Cuba after 5 horrible years.
You can think what you want of that, bringing illegal materials to a country that has rules clearly not allowing that is not smart. Jailing him instead of just deporting him was also a wrong decision from the Cuban authorities but that is now all solved because he is free.
It looks like president Obama is going to strive for better relations with Cuba because it does not look like the police of the past 54 years has worked. The US trades with just about any other country in the world and by any reasonable standard the embargo policy has failed.
What do you think? Was the embargo wrong or was it not the wrong decisions? Or was it right then and is it wrong to now continue it?
I say it was right.As for whether or not it should be lifted now I do not know. I do know that when a country is able to increase it's tax revenue it increases the size and capabilities of it's military which can be a threat to us.For years republicans talked about how communist are evil, communist suck balls and other **** about communist.Democrats for years talked about how they care about the American worker. But then one republicans and democrats who had their mouths on the dicks of business owners decided it was a "awesome" idea to **** the American worker in the ass with no lube and lifted up restrictions in order to allow for companies to outsource to China. China since then has increased the size and capabilities of it's military. I am sure Cuba will do the same thing. Whether or not they become a threat to us I do not know. If it looks like they will be a threat the embargo shouldn't be lifted.
IIRC it's only the US that is in the embargo. Cuba is free to trade with and have tourism from the rest of the world. Until they agree to transition to democracy and improve human rights, only the Cuban elites would benefit from open trade. My Dad has been on a couple of missions to Cuba and it's the epitome of a third-world Communist country where most have nothing unless the government allows it.
As opposed to the 'democratic' third world nations where our agreements mostly benefit the capitalist elites and leadership cronies. The same third world democratic countries where the average citizen gets the left overs after the elite pick through the wealth and get nothing unless the government allows it.
Context is everything.
In this case we're talking about Cuba. Castro could have chosen to go with the US capitalist model but chose Communism which takes all and doles out just enough to survive.
I wonder, all those protesting politicians. Are they afraid of loosing the Cuban vote in Florida? Are they genuinely of the opinion that the embargo was an effective tool of changing the ways of the communist government of Cuba? Or are they so stuck in their ways that they afraid that the die hard pro-embargo people in their own party are going to cause them to loose votes? It was a pretty safe bet to be pro-embargo before now, maybe the tides will be turning when the American public turns out to not be against diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba?
I do not know but from some politicians I can respect that they are anti-lifting of the embargo (those with Cuban blood so to speak) but for most politicians I have little respect or understanding for wanting to prolong a policy that has neither worked nor been beneficial to the US people/Cuban Americans.
I think during the cold war, with Cuba sending their troops to Africa to fight along side of other communist forces in several countries trying to over throw legitimate governments and to Nicaragua to back up the Sandinistas as a surrogate of the USSR, the embargo made sense and was warranted. The fact the USSR had to send millions of Rubles to Cuba to shore up their economy probably helped in the long run to cause the USSR to dissolve.
It was indeed warranted during that time frame. So I sort of look at the embargo as a relic of the cold war. Others look at it different. If it is done away with, fine. If not, no biggie. It has become a way of life and both countries have adjusted to it long ago. Would lifting it help the Cuban people or the regime, the way they operate the regime will be take care first with perhaps some scraps getting down to the people.
I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try something different.
When it comes to socialistic military dictatorships the left absolutely believes in trickle down economics because of the inherent goodness in the hearts of military tyrants. That literally is what they are claiming about Cuba now, isn't it?
As for your history of Cuba and revolutions? They don't know anything about that and don't care. Obama and the media have spoken. It always was "a failed policy" - having no clue what that policy was or why. Just the growing popular view that the USA historically is the most evil country in the world.
The embargo was VERY successful. It prevented Cuba being able to continue to finance and export revolution and socialism throughout Central and South America. It prevented Cuba from have the funds to being a major financer of weapons for such revolutions and terrorism. As for the "Mafia," Castro became the head of his own Mafia - with the military to back it up. The Cuban government is a drug cartel and open safe haven for terrorists and cop-killers. You are correct in that the Bay of Pigs was a disaster. The disaster was the betrayal of President Kennedy who, after promised they would have air support, left those we supported to take back Cuba to be slaughtered and captured. We now have a President who has made it clear he's not anti-commie. In fact, he is their savior.
Cuba has had a very active 'export' business across the world, lest some forget the far flung places where Cuban 'volunteers' served. Revolution is a cheap business that got Soviet weapon/monetary support. It cost the 'free world' a great deal of men and money to fight the Cuban advisors.
Spin the Mafia connection but prior to the Revolution the American based Mafia enjoyed tremendous power and wealth in Cuba. Funny you should claim Cuba is the safe haven for all the world's bad guys but many of our 'dear friends and allies' south of the Rio are as well, very good blinders you have there...
Bay of Pigs... you regurgitate the same old CON lines but fact is the Invasion was a very poorly planned and executed mission... they invaded a swamp!!!! There was air support as B26 bombers operated against Cuban airfields and convoys. (the CIA missed the fact that many jets they thought were unarmed trainers were in fact armed)
But too few too poorly trained and led, in a piss poor invasion beach to have any sort of 60's air support past massive carpet bombing 'work'. The Invasion was based on the false siren song of the people eager to be 'free' (sound familiar President BushII with ex-pats claiming we would be greeted with flowers and candy???)
It wasn't based on a force of arms defeating The Cuban military in a pitched battle.
The day when a President has to be 'anti-commie' are thankfully behind us. Might want to build a bridge and get over it...eace
There are still some Americans who don't like Cuba being the safe haven and asylum of terrorists, kidnappers and American-cop killers.
The policy was hugely beneficial to the USA and all of the Americas. But, since you disagree, post your list of the countries you wished Cuban forces to invade and the list of countries you wanted Cuban filtered weapons to arm their socialists revolutions?
The Cuban Embargo was a nasty and mean spirited policy from Day One. It was designed to
hurt the people of Cuba. It seems to be something the USA likes to do, while squealing
Human Rights tripe. Torture, Iraq, Guantanamo, Libya, Ukraine, etc. are projections of
bad USA policy and it is definitely not a manifestation of the thoughts of average USA
individuals and families. We should be a lot better than that. Let the people speak.
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