Well how far down this rabbit hole do we go? Outlaw spanking all together? NSA parents so we know when they are abusing their kids? Do we extend this to psychological abuse as well? And if so, what becomes illegal and how do we police it?
They could draw the line at whipping your child so hard that you inflict wounds and draw blood.
Yes, it would be a good thing to know when parents are beating their children, wouldn't it?
So would welts be out of the question? Would siblings fighting count as abuse or assault?
Maybe this case is clear cut, but what happens when it's not?
Not only did he do it repeatedly, this was a 4 year old. Not an older kid that knows he's just getting a beating. A kid this age is terrorized by this because he doesnt understand that the adult will (probably) stop before he kills him.
This, from a man that supposedly loves him?
It's disgusting that you try to excuse this with getting a single branch in the face hiking.
No, light swats to NOT cause bleeding and welts....I also hike and ride in the woods...I have never had a SINGLE wound like that and I was a park ranger doing trail maintenance.
I'm not excusing it! I have repeatedly said it was severe. I am only making a distinction between bad parenting (which this appears to be) and criminal abuse (of which I'm not certain). The fact that the child is four does admittedly adds to your side of the debate.
BTW I don't believe you have ever walked through thick woods or you are disingenuous if you don't believe a thin switch can easily draw blood and leave whelps.
I'm not excusing it! I have repeatedly said it was severe. I am only making a distinction between bad parenting (which this appears to be) and criminal abuse (of which I'm not certain). The fact that the child is four does admittedly adds to your side of the debate.
BTW I don't believe you have ever walked through thick woods or you are disingenuous if you don't believe a thin switch can easily draw blood and leave whelps.
Well how far down this rabbit hole do we go? Outlaw spanking all together? NSA parents so we know when they are abusing their kids? Do we extend this to psychological abuse as well? And if so, what becomes illegal and how do we police it?
Well how far down this rabbit hole do we go? Outlaw spanking all together? NSA parents so we know when they are abusing their kids? Do we extend this to psychological abuse as well? And if so, what becomes illegal and how do we police it?
I think I wrote that I used to be a park ranger and do trail maintenance. And I still ride and hike in the mts and lowlands here. On bare skin yes, ok. But not thru clothes. Perhaps the boy was beaten on his bare skin, I may have missed that.
Edit: they are 'welts,' not 'whelps.' Those are dogs.
Somebody explain to me why it's OK to beat the living hell out of a 4 year old kid but it's the crime of the century to hit a woman? Frankly, although both are reprehensible, beating the child is worse.
And please will people stop with this asinine 'I got whipped and I turned out fine' crap! I didn't get whipped and I turned out fine. My kids didn't get whipped and they turned out fine. So what?
What a friggin dirtbag. I spank my child. This isn't spanking. That is beating/torture. If a person "spanks" their child hard enough to leave welts and scabs, it's beyond spanking at that point. As big as Peterson is, he could probably spank his child one time with his hand on the behind and that would be plenty. Whenever a foreign object is brought into spanking, it isn't spanking anymore IMO. Yes, that includes a belt. Spanking isn't something that should be done daily or even every other day. Spanking is a last resort thing that should be done when a child disobeys an order given by their parent that could result in them being seriously hurt. Example, I have spanked (one hit, with my hand, on the butt) my son for running out from between two cars in a parking lot.
Somebody explain to me why it's OK to beat the living hell out of a 4 year old kid but it's the crime of the century to hit a woman? Frankly, although both are reprehensible, beating the child is worse.
And please will people stop with this asinine 'I got whipped and I turned out fine' crap! I didn't get whipped and I turned out fine. My kids didn't get whipped and they turned out fine. So what?
Well how far down this rabbit hole do we go? Outlaw spanking all together? NSA parents so we know when they are abusing their kids? Do we extend this to psychological abuse as well? And if so, what becomes illegal and how do we police it?
I am comfortable with arresting people who beat their children so bad there are scars a week later.
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