Actual CONSERVATIVE thinking…

[ModernDiogenes]

… is violated by federal government overreach in things like sending federal troops on home soil, the inflating the ranks of a federal law enforcement agency(ies) with absolutely wide open - no DISCERNING as to qualifications - smacking of “brown shirts”, corporatist policy that supports cartel and monopolistic business behavior, expansion of executive power - usurping that of the other two branches of government…

These, among others bits we are witnessing of the Trump administration is NOT TRUE CONSERVATIVE politics. It’s something else.

It is autocratic governing and I’m afraid to state approaching fascist acts.

If one truly desires a continuation of a Constitutional Republic than this stuff has to stop.

 

[Peacenik]

It's true. We no longer have representation. We do have new taxation.

We are back to taxation without representation.

We must begin the work to eventually pass the American Anti Corruption Act.

The work of the founders was vital in forming this country. They did what they could while they had the chance.

Ben Franklin wondered if we could keep our freedom. Now it is our turn to continue the work of the founders. The responsibility falls upon us. We, The People.

Our nation screams at us to get the big money corruption out of government. How loud does it have to get?

 

[ModernDiogenes]

It's true. We no longer have representation. We do have new taxation.

We are back to taxation without representation.

We must begin the work to eventually pass the American Anti Corruption Act.

The work of the founders was vital in forming this country. They did what they could while they had the chance.

Ben Franklin wondered if we could keep our freedom. Now it is our turn to continue the work of the founders. The responsibility falls upon us. We, The People.

Our nation screams at us to get the big money corruption out of government. How loud does it have to get?

Absolutely.

I am a major proponent of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Anti-Corruption_Act.

The money in our politics is as corruptive to government as free roaming glucose molecules in the blood stream. The damage done to the “circulation” of ethical governing is as the corrosion to the arteries, veins and nerves of the body of diabetes.

Free roaming money with an agenda is the diabetes of good government.

 

[Lycanthrope]

If one truly desires a continuation of a Constitutional Republic than this stuff has to stop.

MAGA isn't interested in a constitutional republic. They want Trumpism.

 

[Questerr]

MAGA isn't interested in a constitutional republic. They want Trumpism.

"When conservatives find they can no longer win democratically, they won't abandon conservatism. They will abandon democracy."

There are basically zero Republican policies that have majority support in America. They want to force them through anyways, and will destroy democracy to do it, rather than change their policies to be more popular.

 

[Felis Leo]

… is violated by federal government overreach in things like sending federal troops on home soil, the inflating the ranks of a federal law enforcement agency(ies) with absolutely wide open - no DISCERNING as to qualifications - smacking of “brown shirts”, corporatist policy that supports cartel and monopolistic business behavior, expansion of executive power - usurping that of the other two branches of government…

These, among others bits we are witnessing of the Trump administration is NOT TRUE CONSERVATIVE politics. It’s something else.

It is autocratic governing and I’m afraid to state approaching fascist acts.

If one truly desires a continuation of a Constitutional Republic than this stuff has to stop.

Yeah, it is almost as if the conservative politicians, commentators and thought leaders who have nearly all gone over to supporting Donald Trump were lying to us all along. Sort of like the slavery advocates who argued that owning slaves was a humanitarian practice and for the benefit of the slaves more than anyone else.

 

[bongsaway]

Yeah, it is almost like conservative politicians, commentators and thought leaders who have nearly all gone over to supporting Donald Trump were lying to us all along. Sort of like the slavery advocates who argued that owning slaves was a humanitarian practice and for the benefit of the slaves more than anyone else.

And the more you spend, the more you save, doing more with less and all the other asshole sayings from the right like high prices are good for the country. Swallow that shit.

 

[Felis Leo]

And the more you spend, the more you save, doing more with less and all the other asshole sayings from the right like high prices are good for the country. Swallow that shit.

Yeah, I stopped swallowing that a couple years back. I only feel shame for how long I was a conservative Republican and let myself swallow and regurgitate the unending bilge.

 

[Integrityrespec]

… is violated by federal government overreach in things like sending federal troops on home soil, the inflating the ranks of a federal law enforcement agency(ies) with absolutely wide open - no DISCERNING as to qualifications - smacking of “brown shirts”, corporatist policy that supports cartel and monopolistic business behavior, expansion of executive power - usurping that of the other two branches of government…

These, among others bits we are witnessing of the Trump administration is NOT TRUE CONSERVATIVE politics. It’s something else.

It is autocratic governing and I’m afraid to state approaching fascist acts.

If one truly desires a continuation of a Constitutional Republic than this stuff has to stop.

Nonsense. The nation voted Trump into office. He won the electoral vote and the popular vote and more importantly he told the voters what he intended to do. They voted for him because of that. The people leading the left are bat shit crazy and haven't a clue as to how to get the democrat party back to normalcy. They've been crazy for far too long and now crazy seems to be their normal.

 

[Questerr]

Nonsense. The nation voted Trump into office. He won the electoral vote and the popular vote and more importantly he told the voters what he intended to do. They voted for him because of that. The people leading the left are bat shit crazy and haven't a clue as to how to get the democrat party back to normalcy. They've been crazy for far too long and now crazy seems to be their normal.

The nation voted against Trump. The majority of voters voted against him.

 

[bongsaway]

Yeah, I stopped swallowing that a couple years back. I only feel shame for how long I was a conservative Republican and let myself swallow and regurgitate the unending bilge.

At least you realized it, many others don't.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Yeah, it is almost as if the conservative politicians, commentators and thought leaders who have nearly all gone over to supporting Donald Trump were lying to us all along. Sort of like the slavery advocates who argued that owning slaves was a humanitarian practice and for the benefit of the slaves more than anyone else.

My point is two fold: This needs to stop. It’s NOT actually conservatism.

Actual conservative ideology wouldn’t have room for “Trumpism”.

Nonsense. The nation voted Trump into office. He won the electoral vote and the popular vote and more importantly he told the voters what he intended to do. They voted for him because of that. The people leading the left are bat shit crazy and haven't a clue as to how to get the democrat party back to normalcy. They've been crazy for far too long and now crazy seems to be their normal.

What does that have to do with either of the points I am making?

He won the election.

He is NOT a Conservative, nor is any of his MAGA supporters. They have no idea of what actual Conservative ideology is. Trumpism and conservatism are incompatible notions.

Trumpism is compatible with autocracy with a side of fascism.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Pathetic response from a so-called "conservative.'

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Nonsense. The nation voted Trump into office. He won the electoral vote and the popular vote and more importantly he told the voters what he intended to do. They voted for him because of that. The people leading the left are bat shit crazy and haven't a clue as to how to get the democrat party back to normalcy. They've been crazy for far too long and now crazy seems to be their normal.

The most conservative political party is now the Democratic Party.

Republicans have lost their ever-loving minds. Totally batshit crazy.

There will be no return to "normalcy" under Trump just a de-evolution into dictatorship.

AND I SEE NOTHING BUT ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVES. NOTHING BUT COWARDICE AT EVERY LEVEL. There is not a single Republican elected official who has demonstrated any ounce of courage to fight back against this authoritarian power grab.

And in my life I have never seen such blatant hypocrisy from any political group ever.

Republicans have sold their souls to the devil.

Absolutely disgusting, shameful behavior.

Abhorrent behavior.

The Republicans have betrayed our nation.

And when history records this period, I hope they write down every single cowardly Republican official who lacked the spine to stand up to Trump's FASCIST power grab. Absolute, abject cowardice.

 

[Felis Leo]

The most conservative political party is now the Democratic Party.

That is so true. Democrats are a Conservative Party. And that is a bad thing. The Democrats are doing everything in their power to maintain an unjust status quo while the Republicans steal the furniture and tear through the walls to get at the copper wiring. The only people the Democrats attack with any regularity are progressive and leftist politicians seeking to make the lot of American working families better, rather than advocating on behalf of super-PAC donors like ALEC and AIPAC.

Republicans have lost their ever-loving minds. Totally batshit crazy.

There will be no return to "normalcy" under Trump just a de-evolution into dictatorship.

AND I SEE NOTHING BUT ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF SO-CALLED CONSERVATIVES. NOTHING BUT COWARDICE AT EVERY LEVEL. There is not a single Republican elected official who has demonstrated any ounce of courage to fight back against this authoritarian power grab.

And in my life I have never seen such blatant hypocrisy from any political group ever.

Republicans have sold their souls to the devil.

Absolutely disgusting, shameful behavior.

Abhorrent behavior.

The Republicans have betrayed our nation.

And when history records this period, I hope they write down every single cowardly Republican official who lacked the spine to stand up to Trump's FASCIST power grab. Absolute, abject cowardice.

I do not think it is cowardice. I think most of them wanted this all along. They probably just hoped they could hide a dictatorship behind a wall of legal niceties rather than having to resort to a naked autogolpe.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

The Democrats are doing everything in their power to maintain an unjust status quo while the Republicans steal the furniture and tear through the walls to get at the copper wiring.

100%

Perfect visual.

 

[Airyaman]

There is not conservative vs liberal or progressive anymore. We've now simplified it non-woke vs woke.

MAGA is not conservative. It's whatever Trump wants it to be day by day. The party of free trade is now the part of protectionism and trade barriers.

The only thing that the republican party of today is the same in is the willingness to cut taxes for wealthy people, pro gun, anti-abortion and closed borders.

Tell me if I'm missing something.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

The nation voted against Trump. The majority of voters voted against him.

He won the popular vote.

 

[Questerr]

He won the popular vote.

The majority of American voters voted against him.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Airyaman]