skreetsmart
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I'm all for scientific exploration, research and studies that lead to improvements in our standards of living. this has however turned into a protectionist mechanism for keeping youths and less wealthy individuals out of industries and unable to compete with the vets and those that had more time to accumulate resources.
Inability to recognize the value of knowledge and education is sheer ignorance.
We waste our time, energy, and money trying to teach people things they have no interest in or use for; then we are amazed that they don't want to and end up not learning them. Why teach physics to a student who is obviously going to be wearing a uniform with his name on the front for the next 25 years? Especially when he can't even speak/read sufficient english to understand the text book? Why teach trig or calculus to someone whose resume is going to say "mom" for the entirety of their life? What purpose does this serve?
Inability to recognize and value Faith, Tradition, and the Wisdom of Common Sense is as surely ignorance as the lack of knowledge and education. In fact, I would suggest that Faith, Tradition, Wisdom, and Common Sense should be much more highly sought after than pure knowledge.
We waste our time, energy, and money trying to teach people things they have no interest in or use for; then we are amazed that they don't want to and end up not learning them. Why teach physics to a student who is obviously going to be wearing a uniform with his name on the front for the next 25 years? Especially when he can't even speak/read sufficient english to understand the text book? Why teach trig or calculus to someone whose resume is going to say "mom" for the entirety of their life? What purpose does this serve?
Inability to recognize and value Faith, Tradition, and the Wisdom of Common Sense is as surely ignorance as the lack of knowledge and education. In fact, I would suggest that Faith, Tradition, Wisdom, and Common Sense should be much more highly sought after than pure knowledge.
We waste our time, energy, and money trying to teach people things they have no interest in or use for; then we are amazed that they don't want to and end up not learning them. Why teach physics to a student who is obviously going to be wearing a uniform with his name on the front for the next 25 years? Especially when he can't even speak/read sufficient english to understand the text book? Why teach trig or calculus to someone whose resume is going to say "mom" for the entirety of their life? What purpose does this serve?
Education is not job training. The main purpose of a general education is to help the young learn how to ask questions, develop rigorous and often ingenious means of answering them, and explore existing questions, answers, and perspectives in various domains of knowledge. That should help them expand their breadth of perspective and imagination. Someone really educated will find that education useful whether he or she has to become a soldier, a mom, or a political hostage in a prison. Someone who finds it useless will have wasted all his or her time, because he or she never got a genuine education. A person with job training can do a job. A person with education can invent jobs and training for them.
The purpose this serves is simple to understand. Nobody can predict the future, so its best to give all a chance and avoid the problem of creating a caste system. The unpromising kid of today could easily be the leader of tomorrow.
Educational requirements are getting higher and higher even for menial work, mostly because of job scarcity and employers can be more selective.
I'm happy with my career but honestly my advice to any young person thinking about post-secondary is that they should only do it if they can get relevant experience and if their work sector has good hiring rates. The cost of education is mostly not worth it anymore and the market is saturated with degree holders.
My sister has been applying for work as an administrative receptionist and I am shocked to hear that some companies are actually asking for degree holders only. Seriously? To work a front desk? How lazy companies have become... you used to get on the job training or even apprenticeship, and now they just expect you to know everything on arrival.
Some of us would prefer to have a caste system, mega. Understanding is wonderful when it leads to something; but like so many of our college students today.... Unless the education has a career at the end of it, what is it truly worth? The greatest philosopher of all time can starve just as easily as the bum because he has no marketable job skills.
Profound stuff.
It's great that people can ask deeper questions and all that, but at the cost of $100k-200k.
Was it really worth it, because the library is nearly free and you can learn the same material there.
education is weight lifting for the mind. seemingly "unnecessary" courses are as necessary as weightlifting is for an athlete. he or she may not lift massive metal objects in the course of the game, but will most certainly benefit from the strength gained, as will the team as a whole.
education is weight lifting for the mind. seemingly "unnecessary" courses are as necessary as weightlifting is for an athlete. he or she may not lift massive metal objects in the course of the game, but will most certainly benefit from the strength gained, as will the team as a whole.
Profound stuff.
It's great that people can ask deeper questions and all that, but at the cost of $100k-200k.
Was it really worth it, because the library is nearly free and you can learn the same material there.
For example.... I have an Associates Degree in my chosen field. That's all I need to get by in this line of work. Why would I have wasted an additional two years to get my Bachelor's degree? Two years more of expenses and two years less of income. Seems like a pretty stupid equation to me.
You do not have to. But if you do it should be available, all the while some companies would give you a raise more easily if you did upgrade your education to Bachelor's degree.
There are far less expensive and good universities in USA.
education is weight lifting for the mind. seemingly "unnecessary" courses are as necessary as weightlifting is for an athlete. he or she may not lift massive metal objects in the course of the game, but will most certainly benefit from the strength gained, as will the team as a whole.
Education is not job training. The main purpose of a general education is to help the young learn how to ask questions, develop rigorous and often ingenious means of answering them, and explore existing questions, answers, and perspectives in various domains of knowledge. That should help them expand their breadth of perspective and imagination. Someone really educated will find that education useful whether he or she has to become a soldier, a mom, or a political hostage in a prison. Someone who finds it useless will have wasted all his or her time, because he or she never got a genuine education. A person with job training can do a job. A person with education can invent jobs and training for them.
Unbelievable! It is exactly what I believe also! Do you practice both?
Okay. Let's use that analogy. I do a job that requires me to life 65 lbs. of mental weight. Why the hell would I waste my time and money learning to life 150 lbs. of mental weight? Espeically when I pay for the ability to lift 70 lbs. of mental weight and then work to build additional mental strength on my own after that fact.
For example.... I have an Associates Degree in my chosen field. That's all I need to get by in this line of work. Why would I have wasted an additional two years to get my Bachelor's degree? Two years more of expenses and two years less of income. Seems like a pretty stupid equation to me.
Believe me, I know this.
At my current school and my transfer school, I'll graduate with 0 or near 0 debt.
A lot of people want the big names though and they pay a high price for it.
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