blogger31 said:For those of you who hold the view that it is not your place to tell a woman what to do with her own body, I have a question.
Are you also in favor of legalizing any and all drugs for the simple fact that it should not be our place to tell a junkie what they can or cannot do with their body? Do you hold that same view that if you don't like drugs don't do them, but it is not our place what to tell others they can ingest into their body?
blogger31 said:For those of you who hold the view that it is not your place to tell a woman what to do with her own body, I have a question.
Are you also in favor of legalizing any and all drugs for the simple fact that it should not be our place to tell a junkie what they can or cannot do with their body? Do you hold that same view that if you don't like drugs don't do them, but it is not our place what to tell others they can ingest into their body?
alex said:I am in favor of legalizing any drug. The government does not have any right to tell any person what to do with their own body. Liberty is what makes this country great.
blogger31 said:Well that tells me alot about you then, you have no sight for what it can bring. You don't care about side effects on society by the harm one can do to their body. Do you think that it will get better when legalized? No it can only get worse, the effects of drugs on people will remain the same, and the greed from the dealers will get even stronger. People will still have to cheat, lie, steal, and hurt others to get money to get their fix. It is now of no amazment to me that you could support the killing of an innocent child, you don't even care about those that are living.
puck said:Yes the dealers can be very greedy, like Glaxo, Bear and Pfizer. My previous note states I don't agree with broad legalization, so don't castigate me.
blogger31 said:Well that tells me alot about you then, you have no sight for what it can bring. You don't care about side effects on society by the harm one can do to their body. Do you think that it will get better when legalized? No it can only get worse, the effects of drugs on people will remain the same, and the greed from the dealers will get even stronger. People will still have to cheat, lie, steal, and hurt others to get money to get their fix. It is now of no amazment to me that you could support the killing of an innocent child, you don't even care about those that are living.
alex said:You obviously have not done the research. You base your posts on nothing but what you think to be the truth instead of knowing the facts. Once again, I will disprove you.
Check this out:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/crime/#table1
The table that it references shows very low percentages of people who use drugs committing crimes. 1.6% of drug users committed larceny or theft, that is a low percentage. There are 98.4% of drugs users who do not commit larceny or theft. Should they be threatened with penalties? That holds true for all the crimes listed on the table.
Legalizing drugs will not incease crime. The issue here is that people like you have been conditioned to believe drugs are bad. You were told they were and you do not have the mental capacity to think for your self. A majority of people who use drugs are responsible users. That is the plain simple fact.
vergiss said:I suffered as the child of a chronic alcoholic. Why the hell is alcohol and its many problems any better than an addiction to meth or the like?
Blogger31, I suggest you actually take a good look at the world before you decide your sheltered opinions are of any value. What's more, I find it absoloutely disgusting that you should whinge about children no one wants, yet be a warhawk with no care for the soldiers or civilians hurt and killed in Iraq. Does the word hypocrite mean anything to you?
vergiss said:And likewise, I never said that legalising drugs was a good idea, did I? But by implication, you act as if alcohol and cigarettes are somehow lees bad, just because they're legal. How can you decide which addiction is better than the other?
You cannot care about the lives of soldiers if you want them to go to war in Iraq. You cannot care about the Iraqi civilians if you think the US should be bombing them to smithereens.
What solution is there to abortion? Increased access to birth control? Yeah, like the Bible belt conservatives will be happy about that. Besides, accidents happen, condoms break, the Pill doesn't work, etc. If you want a solution, get science to figure out a way of raising an embryo outside of the womb (and guarentee them loving adoptive parents - we don't want a situation that existed prior to abortion, with thousands of abandoned children without families to raise them) or something, so women can live their lives free of children forced upon them by the State.
I haven't just seen what drugs (legal or not) do to people. I've lived it.
vergiss said:Read your own posts, then. By having a hissy fit about the problems caused by illicit drugs, you trivialise the seriousness of problems caused by alcohol and cigarettes. Why should some be legal and others not, then?
It's not ultra-hippy, it's quite logical. God forbid you use logic. If you want men and women to fight in an unjustified war such at the conflict in Iraq, then you don't care for the 1800 who have been killed so far, the untold thousands who've been severely wounded, and the many more who are in harm's way. How can you say you care if you're so willing for their lives to be risked?
Also, you might want to be wary about who's "in a bind". The first person to try and claim that they've won an argument is invariably the one who feels threatened.
What solution do you have, then?
vergiss said:*sigh*
And because you're slow, or refuse to read what I've written, I shall repeat: "Read your own posts, then. By having a hissy fit about the problems caused by illicit drugs, you trivialise the seriousness of problems caused by alcohol and cigarettes."
How about you prove that you're not? Good luck.
Are you also in favor of legalizing any and all drugs for the simple fact that it should not be our place to tell a junkie what they can or cannot do with their body? Do you hold that same view that if you don't like drugs don't do them, but it is not our place what to tell others they can ingest into their body?
vergiss said:Erm. No. The "prove that you're not" was regarding the war, not the cigarettes and alcohol.
Besides, wouldn't you consider a slow and agonising death from lung cancer as being a tobacco overdose, of sorts? Although I'll agree, they're probably not as serious in the short-term as alcohol and illicit drugs.
vergiss said:I didn't jump to any conclusions, until it's proved one way or the other. If I refuse to prove it, you'll have to do so, before you can say I jumped to conclusions.
And if I have, I'll admit it. At least I haven't done a CattyCarissa in deciding someone has no maternal instinct.
Blogger31, I suggest you actually take a good look at the world before you decide your sheltered opinions are of any value. What's more, I find it absoloutely disgusting that you should whinge about children no one wants, yet be a warhawk with no care for the soldiers or civilians hurt and killed in Iraq. Does the word hypocrite mean anything to you?
vergiss said:I didn't jump to any conclusions, until it's proved one way or the other. If I refuse to prove it, you'll have to do so, before you can say I jumped to conclusions.
And if I have, I'll admit it. At least I haven't done a CattyCarissa in deciding someone has no maternal instinct.
vergiss said:Okay. You seem to be missing the fact that I don't care if you are or are not, and to be honest I can't be stuffed arguing such a silly point. However, I am ready to apologise for my haste if proven wrong. If it's such a big deal to you, you prove me right or wrong.
galenrox said:In short, yes. I think that we first need to have an honest discussion about the effects of these drugs, with children and adults, since I've found that most of the adults who oppose the legalization of drugs don't know **** about drugs, and then legalize them all. Why is it my business what some dude does in his house?
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