ABC Poll Showing Biden up 12 Asks For Youngest Members Of The Household

[ReubenSherr]

An ABC poll out today shows Biden up by 12 over Trump.

Again, sounds like bad news for Trump.

Until you examine their methodology. And find that the polling firm affiliated with ABC calls landlines, and asks for the youngest member of the household to take the poll.

ABC News' polling methodology and standards

A summary of ABC News polling standards and methodology.

abcnews.go.com

An NBC poll out in September found that Biden was leading Trump with Generation Z voters by 24 points, and leading with millennial voters by 20 points. And this was during a week where Biden's RCP lead was 6.2.

Younger voters choose Biden over Trump — but they're not wild about either

A new poll analysis shows major gaps by race and gender among Generation Z and millennial voters.

www.nbcnews.com

Why on Earth would a pollster want to speak with the youngest member of the household? Younger Americans are less likely to vote. But wait, younger Americans are more likely to support a liberal candidate.

Hmmm...
.

 

[Rogue Valley]

An ABC poll out today shows Biden up by 12 over Trump.

Again, sounds like bad news for Trump.

Until you examine their methodology. And find that the polling firm affiliated with ABC calls landlines, and asks for the youngest member of the household to take the poll.

Doesn't seem to bother you when Fox and Rasmussen do the same.

 

[noonereal]

An ABC poll out today shows Biden up by 12 over Trump.

Again, sounds like bad news for Trump.

Until you examine their methodology. And find that the polling firm affiliated with ABC calls landlines, and asks for the youngest member of the household to take the poll.

ABC News' polling methodology and standards

A summary of ABC News polling standards and methodology.

abcnews.go.com

An NBC poll out in September found that Biden was leading Trump with Generation Z voters by 24 points, and leading with millennial voters by 20 points. And this was during a week where Biden's RCP lead was 6.2.

Younger voters choose Biden over Trump — but they're not wild about either

A new poll analysis shows major gaps by race and gender among Generation Z and millennial voters.

www.nbcnews.com

Why on Earth would a pollster want to speak with the youngest member of the household? Younger Americans are less likely to vote. But wait, younger Americans are more likely to support a liberal candidate.

Hmmm...
.

so Trump would not want to be up by 12 in this poll? Is that what you are saying? LOL

 

[ReubenSherr]

so Trump would not want to be up by 12 in this poll? Is that what you are saying? LOL

???

I’m saying that the pollsters called landlines and asked for the youngest member of the household.

Younger voters are much more likely to be liberal, as documented in the OP.

Hence, the 12 point Biden lead is artificial.

 

[Rogue Valley]

???

I’m saying that the pollsters called landlines and asked for the youngest member of the household.

That's just bullshit. It doesn't say that anywhere in the methodology.

 

[ReubenSherr]

That's just bullshit. It doesn't say that anywhere in the methodology.

Yes it does.

Scroll down to “Interviewing”. It’s in the second paragraph.

 

[Greenbeard]

This doesn't even make sense, old people hate Trump. He decided their lives are expendable, the less of them captured in interviews the better for Trump.

 

[beefheart]

An ABC poll out today shows Biden up by 12 over Trump.

Again, sounds like bad news for Trump.

Until you examine their methodology. And find that the polling firm affiliated with ABC calls landlines, and asks for the youngest member of the household to take the poll.

ABC News' polling methodology and standards

A summary of ABC News polling standards and methodology.

abcnews.go.com

An NBC poll out in September found that Biden was leading Trump with Generation Z voters by 24 points, and leading with millennial voters by 20 points. And this was during a week where Biden's RCP lead was 6.2.

Younger voters choose Biden over Trump — but they're not wild about either

A new poll analysis shows major gaps by race and gender among Generation Z and millennial voters.

www.nbcnews.com

Why on Earth would a pollster want to speak with the youngest member of the household? Younger Americans are less likely to vote. But wait, younger Americans are more likely to support a liberal candidate.

Hmmm...
.

More propaganda BS.

How much do you get paid to push the daily denial?
Maybe...maybe they wanted to get old and young likely voters and had already had enough likely voters in other age ranges.....

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

???

I’m saying that the pollsters called landlines and asked for the youngest member of the household.

Younger voters are much more likely to be liberal, as documented in the OP.

Hence, the 12 point Biden lead is artificial.

How many "young people" do you know with landlines?

Asking for the youngest adult in the household is industry-wide standard procedure.

 

[ReubenSherr]

This doesn't even make sense, old people hate Trump. He decided their lives are expendable, the less of them captured in interviews the better for Trump.

Refer to the NBC study in the OP.

Biden was 24 points ahead of Trump with Gen Z, when Biden’s RCP lead was 6.

 

[ReubenSherr]

How many "young people" do you know with landlines?

Gen Z voters living with their parents.

 

[noonereal]

???

I’m saying that the pollsters called landlines and asked for the youngest member of the household.

Younger voters are much more likely to be liberal, as documented in the OP.

Hence, the 12 point Biden lead is artificial.

So Trump does not want to be ahead in "the youngest person in the household land line poll." Got it. He prefers to be down by 12 in this group. So he can be happy, he is.

Personally, I only know old folks who still have a land line at all. I am in my 60's and got rid of my landline over a decade ago. Only reason I had it so long was because of my business.

But, whatever, you think young people have land line. LOL

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

Gen Z voters living with their parents.

I notice you ignored the other half of my post.

 

[beefheart]

I notice you ignored the other half of my post.

He is making extrapolations based on his bias.

The poll does not cover just the youngest people, it is a stratified poll. Reuben is lying again.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Yes it does.

Scroll down to “Interviewing”. It’s in the second paragraph.

Quote it right here in a post.

 

[JMR]

???

I’m saying that the pollsters called landlines and asked for the youngest member of the household.

Younger voters are much more likely to be liberal, as documented in the OP.

Hence, the 12 point Biden lead is artificial.

In many households with landlines the youngest member of the household may be 70 years old.

You keep hoping all the polls are wrong.

 

[beefheart]

In many households with landlines the youngest member of the household may be 70 years old.

You keep hoping all the polls are wrong.

I have landline, youngest voter in our house is 56.

 

[Chomsky]

An ABC poll out today shows Biden up by 12 over Trump.

Again, sounds like bad news for Trump.

Until you examine their methodology. And find that the polling firm affiliated with ABC calls landlines, and asks for the youngest member of the household to take the poll.

ABC News' polling methodology and standards

A summary of ABC News polling standards and methodology.

abcnews.go.com

An NBC poll out in September found that Biden was leading Trump with Generation Z voters by 24 points, and leading with millennial voters by 20 points. And this was during a week where Biden's RCP lead was 6.2.

Younger voters choose Biden over Trump — but they're not wild about either

A new poll analysis shows major gaps by race and gender among Generation Z and millennial voters.

www.nbcnews.com

Why on Earth would a pollster want to speak with the youngest member of the household? Younger Americans are less likely to vote. But wait, younger Americans are more likely to support a liberal candidate.

Hmmm...
.

I speed-read your article, expecting to dispute your characterization. But I can't. It is claimed in the article. Good catch.

I'm at a loss with this, but would like to know:

1] Why?

2] Is this typical? Are other pollsters doing this?

There may be some harmless or technical reason to do this. So, I'm not going to jump-on the 'conspiracy' bandwagon .... at least yet!

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

I speed-read your article, expecting to dispute your characterization. But I can't. It is claimed in the article. Good catch.

I'm at a loss with this, but would like to know:

1] Why?

2] Is this typical? Are other pollsters doing this?

There may be some harmless or technical reason to do this. So, I'm not going to jump-on the 'conspiracy' bandwagon .... at least yet!

It is not only typical, but standard operating procedure. Pretty much every pollster does it.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Quote it right here in a post.

“For landline respondents, interviewers asked to speak to the youngest male or youngest female at home.”

 

[Chomsky]

That's just bullshit. It doesn't say that anywhere in the methodology.

Yes it does say it! Explicitly! It's quite a ways down the article, but it is there on the section on methodology.

 

[Chomsky]

It is not only typical, but standard operating procedure. Pretty much every pollster does it.

Thanks!

Interesting. Ii have never heard of this, but it's not like I would know.

Any idea why? What's the purpose?

 

[Mr Person]

Gen Z voters living with their parents.

You edited out the second line in his post, which was "Asking for the youngest adult in the household is industry-wide standard procedure."

Why was that?

 

[ReubenSherr]

I speed-read your article, expecting to dispute your characterization. But I can't. It is claimed in the article. Good catch.

I'm at a loss with this, but would like to know:

1] Why?

2] Is this typical? Are other pollsters doing this?

There may be some harmless or technical reason to do this. So, I'm not going to jump-on the 'conspiracy' bandwagon .... at least yet!

Yeah, I’m not necessarily saying this is a conspiracy, it’s possible that pollsters are simply using a procedure they’ve had in place for years. And this time around, it happens to benefit Biden.

I’m trying to find out if The Hill, for example, used this same procedure for landlines, because they measured Biden +5.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

Thanks!


Interesting. Ii have never heard of this, but it's not like I would know.

Any idea why? What's the purpose?

The purpose is to get responses from young people, who are always incredibly underrepresented in landline samples.