A volleyball player’s gender led to secret votes, pressure campaigns and forfeits

[Phys251]

What could go wrong with promoting skirt wearing males into women's bathrooms? Besides sexual assault.

Judge Rules Loudoun County Teen Sexually Assaulted Female Student in Girls’ Bathroom

A Virginia juvenile court judge concluded Monday that a transgender teenager sexually assaulted a female student in a Loudoun County high school in May.

www.yahoo.com

Says a supporter of rapist donald trump.

 

[j brown's body]

Says a supporter of rapist donald trump.

The National Review is lying. The student wasn't a transgender.
And transgenders were not allowed to use the bathroom of their choice.

 

[Juin]

How do you test for gender identity independent of the subject? A person can claim whatever they want; that is their right and prerogative; but that is not an objective proof. To categorise a subject as male does not require talking to the subject; just examine the subject for balls and tomahawk

Sex and gender are not the same. This is the core idea that we are supposed to be discussing. Thanks for the laughs and the adolescent terminology.

You are being evasive. Two men A and B go into a women's public bathroom. How is the staff supposed to determine, independent of what they claim, which is trans and which is not?

Biased how? Can you prove that the male looking individual who undressed in front of women is not trans?

A trans or even cis woman would not be that bold to undress without a robe or a towel. In a bathroom, nobody undresses in front of anything or anyone. Everyone has a cubicle with a locked door.

You did not address your claim the source is biased. The facts of the matter are not up to dispute. A clearly male looking individual, with male appenditures, went into a women's public facility and undressed. Should the individual be evicted? Why, if he is trans? If the individual is in fact trans, how does he prove that he is trans and not just some male on some sick thrill?

 

[Juin]

The National Review is lying. The student wasn't a transgender.
And transgenders were not allowed to use the bathroom of their choice.

And how is it established the student wasnt trans? And if the student claimed to be trans, how is that disproved?

 

[j brown's body]

And how is it established the student wasnt trans? And if the student claimed to be trans, how is that disproved?

He doesn't claim to be transgender and no one considered him to be, except the right-wing media. Kind of like Fox News is always referring to people who are seeking asylum as "illegal immigrants."

He was a heterosexual male predator. That's where your attention should be directed.

Just as the right-wing lies about tying this to a bathroom policy. When it happened, there was no policy affirming trans use of the bathroom.

The rape was real. The right-wing narrative around it is bullshit.

 

[Juin]

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And how is it established the student wasnt trans? And if the student claimed to be trans, how is that disproved?

He doesn't claim to be transgender and no one considered him to be, except the right-wing media. Kind of like Fox News is always referring to people who are seeking asylum as "illegal immigrants."

If an individual does not claim to be transgender does that negate their being transgender if they are in fact one? Why shouldnt it be simply assumed that they are one? Isnt their very act of using a female bathroom indicative of their being trans?

Secondly, if the individual claims to be transgender does that make the individual trans if in fact the individual is not?

He was a heterosexual male predator. That's where your attention should be directed.

How, again, do you objectively establish they are regular male and not trans?

 

[AZRWinger]

The issue is 3 years old with no recent crimes is very telling. Its not a issue that the GOP have made it out to me. There are a hundred mass shooting a year and hundreds of people die but someone those murders aren't worth solving for conservatives when they can create these fake social wars to harass the minority du jour.

This transgender sexually assaulting a young girl came to light after a parent the child's father was arrested for protesting the school board member lying about transgenders posing no threat.

The arrest was followed by Biden’s AG announcing the DOJ was going to "investigate" parents disrupting school board meetings. Do you think that would have a chilling effect on reporting further incidents? Yes.

It matters greatly if they weren't nonbinary, as they claimed.

If she had evidence that the kid wasn't nonbinary and was there under a ruse then yes she needed to report it. It wasn't her fault that she was attacked but she did fail to report the past actions that could have prevented the 3rd.

Not only is the victim obligated to gather and report evidence her attacker was falsely claiming to be so-called nonbinary, she should have reported her earlier encounters with the perpetrator to the sex police. That's ridiculously beyond blaming the victim.

 

[AZRWinger]

Isn't it illegal, according to this judge?

Read the judge's decision. It was limited to denial of employment based solely on a chromosome test. Neither is applicable here.

The volleyball player has complied with NCAA and Mountain West Conference policies.

Players on opposing teams have the right to protest against unfair policies allowing a man posing as a woman to compete as a female. The player's desire to degrade women's sports doesn't mean other competitors must suffer in silence.

 

[j brown's body]

Read the judge's decision. It was limited to denial of employment based solely on a chromosome test. Neither is applicable here.

Players on opposing teams have the right to protest against unfair policies allowing a man posing as a woman to compete as a female. The player's desire to degrade women's sports doesn't mean other competitors must suffer in silence.

This case lost as well.

The transwoman meets the requirements. Your arguing she is a man, when she us not, suggests a lack of honesty in your argument, just as there is lack of honesty in this latest lawsuit, which claims a fear of injury. They played for two and half years with this woman without fear of injury. This wasn't an issue until tue right-wing sunk its teeth into it.

 

[j brown's body]

This transgender sexually assaulting a young girl came to light after a parent the child's father was arrested for protesting the school board member lying about transgenders posing no threat.

The arrest was followed by Biden’s AG announcing the DOJ was going to "investigate" parents disrupting school board meetings. Do you think that would have a chilling effect on reporting further incidents? Yes.

Not only is the victim obligated to gather and report evidence her attacker was falsely claiming to be so-called nonbinary, she should have reported her earlier encounters with the perpetrator to the sex police. That's ridiculously beyond blaming the victim.

He is not a transgender.

It's absurd to assume no one would report a crime because the DoJ is investigating threats against school boards.

Could your arguments have at least a hint of validity or honesty?

 

[AZRWinger]

Says a supporter of rapist donald trump.

I am not the problem. Whining about the Orange Man Bad doesn't excuse lying about the boy in a skirt sexually assaulting a girl.

 

[Phys251]

I am not the problem. Whining about the Orange Man Bad doesn't excuse lying about the boy in a skirt sexually assaulting a girl.

Sexual assault, you say?

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lisa]

I am not the problem. Whining about the Orange Man Bad doesn't excuse lying about the boy in a skirt sexually assaulting a girl.

This is not about the safety of anyone. Its just another concern troll to attack and harass trans people for crimes that don't happen. What about the safety of trans kids/adults, or don't their lives matter?

Between 2013 and 2022 (the most recent year for which data is available), the FBI recorded 21 fatal hate crimes committed against trans and gender non-conforming people, including bias-motivated deaths categorized as murder, manslaughter, or negligent manslaughter, far fewer than the 335 deaths recorded by HRC.


The discrepancy is due to the fact that ‘hate crime’ carries a legal definition, albeit one which differs between jurisdictions, and across state and federal regulations. In addition, not all jurisdictions collect and/or report hate crimes data to the FBI, meaning that the FBI’s database is incomplete. For the purpose of our reporting, a case is only categorized as a hate crime if it has been officially categorized as such under an existing federal or state hate crime statute—meaning that a person has been charged, convicted, and/or sentenced. However, a case does not have to be categorized as a hate crime, to be included in our reporting.


This does not discount the many cases where bias, hate, and structural violence and stigma played a role in the killing of individuals, including indirectly through fostering the conditions in which the death occurred (e.g. if a person was killed while engaging in survival sex work, after being pushed out of the formal economy). Nor does it discount the fact that many cases may be motivated by anti-trans hate, regardless of if this rose to the level of meeting the legal definition for hate crime in their jurisdiction.

The Epidemic of Violence Against the Transgender and Gender…

The 2023 Report

reports.hrc.org

Girls are far more likely to be sexually assaulted by a cisgender man, uncle, such as a father or minster than someone who is transgender. republicans are silent when that happens, or they defend the father and/or church.

 

[Lisa]

Sexual assault, you say?

Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All the assault allegations against Donald Trump, recapped

Their charges range from an unwanted touch from behind to aggressive, sudden kissing to fingers groping up their skirt and into their underwear. Donald Trump and his campaign insist all of the stories are fabricated and politically motivated.

www.pbs.org

 

[AZRWinger]

This case lost as well.

The transwoman meets the requirements. Your arguing she is a man, when she us not, suggests a lack of honesty in your argument, just as there is lack of honesty in this latest lawsuit, which claims a fear of injury. They played for two and half years with this woman without fear of injury. This wasn't an issue until tue right-wing sunk its teeth into it.

What requirements for transgender are you referring to? SCOTUS justice Brown stated she could not define the meaning of woman, suggesting it requires a biologist. Yet, you claim this case of gender disphoria qualifies as a transwoman. How?

The team is for women's volleyball. Not for transwomen whatever that is. Thanks for acknowledging there is a difference.

 

[AZRWinger]

This is not about the safety of anyone. Its just another concern troll to attack and harass trans people for crimes that don't happen. What about the safety of trans kids/adults, or don't their lives matter?

Didn't you read the article? The judge found sufficient evidence for the trans to be charged with sexual assault.

The Epidemic of Violence Against the Transgender and Gender…

The 2023 Report

reports.hrc.org

Girls are far more likely to be sexually assaulted by a cisgender man, uncle, such as a father or minster than someone who is transgender. republicans are silent when that happens, or they defend the father and/or church.

None of this whataboutism justifies lying about the trans boy's assault.

 

[Lisa]

Didn't you read the article? The judge found sufficient evidence for the trans to be charged with sexual assault.

None of this whataboutism justifies lying about the trans boy's assault.

He was never transgender to begin with. Was there any evidence that he was seeing a therapist, a Dr for his dysphoria? Were his parents involved or even asked? You don't become transgender overnite. If a person is going to use the female facilities they need to be living as a female to the point its not safe to use the male facilities.

Why didn't she report it after she had consensual sex with him, twice?

 

[AZRWinger]

He is not a transgender.

A boy in a skirt who insists on using the girls bathroom isn't transgender? Nonsense

It's absurd to assume no one would report a crime because the DoJ is investigating threats against school boards.

Oh really. The threat of a DOJ persecution doesn't intimidate? Nonsense .

Could your arguments have at least a hint of validity or honesty?

Can your arguments have a hint of relevance to the issue at hand?

 

[VySky]

I’m glad to see Boise State forfeited their game rather than play against a man.