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A union member fired for U.S.S. George W. Bush shirt...


Thank you for proving my point so eloquently.
 

I am personally outraged that these people would choose to work at that particular even and show support for their son serving on the..

Oh, wait... that wasn't what they were doing, was it. They were making a political statement while attending the event.

I can certainly see how you could confuse the two situations, considering how closely they are related...NOT.

Here's a nice big bucket of :failpail: for you.
 
USA-1 said:
They told him to take it off, turn it inside out or leave. The choice was his. Had a worker at a McCain rally been wearing a Clinton shirt what do you think would have happened?
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Is this your well considered INDEPENDENT opinion? Hmmm? I suppose his rights are of no consequence are they? You can't fire someone because of a sweatshirt.
 
American said:
Is this your well considered INDEPENDENT opinion? Hmmm? I suppose his rights are of no consequence are they? You can't fire someone because of a sweatshirt.
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Oh, yes, you can, American. Unless someone has an employment contract, they can be fired 'cause they have blue eyes. (Exception would be discrimination of protected classes.)
 
So, to summarise. He may not have been a union member, he was suddenly overcome with the urgent need to wear a shirt with "BUSH" on it while working at an Obama event, and was sent home for the rest of the day, but not sacked, when he refused to comply with his supervisor's legitimate request. What a patriot.

The constant dribble of such petty partisan crap (with half an eye on a lawsuit payout) damages any standing the US has retained since suffering the Bush tsunami.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
...he was suddenly overcome with the urgent need to wear a shirt with "BUSH" on it while working at an Obama event
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Ok Mr. Axelrod... prove your statement. You can't. You don't know (neither do I) that he did not wear that sweatshirt ever time he went out of the house, now do you???
 
What is strange is that I recall a lot of conservative posters here supporting the right of employers to fire people for having Obama bumper stickers on their car, yet the same posters are upset for what a person wearing what was clearly a politically motivated stunt ( a shirt with Bush in large type on a shirt at an Obama rally
 
Just as an FYI, that would certainly not include me.

And you seem to be 100% certain this was a 'political stunt', yet, neither you nor anyone of that mindset has produced any evidence to back that statement up... other than 'because it is'. I've explained to my 10 yr old son many tmies that 'because it is' does not constitute evidence.
 

And you people are 100% certain that it wasn't a political stunt even though there is no evidence of that either. But if it walks like a duck.........
 
Whovian said:
Ok Mr. Axelrod... prove your statement. You can't. You don't know (neither do I) that he did not wear that sweatshirt ever time he went out of the house, now do you???
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And you believe he did wear that sweatshirt every time he went out of the house? How cold was it in Southern Cal that day? What does your common sense tell you?
 
USA-1 said:
And you believe he did wear that sweatshirt every time he went out of the house? How cold was it in Southern Cal that day? What does your common sense tell you?
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Did you not comprehend the part where I said You don't know (neither do I) ?

You come off as the end all and be all on what actually happened in this case... when the FACT is you don't have a clue as the the facts behind his motivations, those of his union, etc... any more that I have a clue.

I argue a possibility... I am willing to accept the 'possibility' either way, while you argue as if your word is 'fact', and beyond contestation. You have no interest in 'discussion' or 'debate'... all you seem to care to do is explain to everyone that you are correct and everyone else is wrong.

I feel sad for you.
 

It's not clearly anything, and you need to be more specific than saying " a lot of conservative posters here". How is that at all relevant unless you can connect "conservative posters" then, to the "conservative posters" now?
 
I have no problem from a legal stand point or anything with the company firing him from that job. He made a choice, they reacted based on what they felt was best for their job.

That doesn't keep it from being absolutely idiotic and frankly sad that you're going to do that because you'er so pathetically politically ignorant or so raging hyperpartisan that you view the shirt as a political statement.
 

Don't feel sad for me. Unlike most on this thread I do not take what the reporter or the"victim" said at face value. Some here used the story to trash democrats, the union and even Obama, when they don't even know if the supervisor that fired him was a democrat or republican. I am arguing a possiblity too and when I do people say I must be wrong because there is no evidence either way. The fact is I don't buy it and that's my stand. The media has been known to embellish the truth before just to make a story out of a non-story.
Do we even know yet if he was fired or just sent home with pay?
 
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Whovian said:
Practically every post you made in this thread says otherwise, and you don't even realize it. How sad.
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Do you even read what you write? I have disputed everything the reporter and "victim" have said. If you can't at least be honest I am finished here.
 
USA-1 said:
Do you even read what you write? I have disputed everything the reporter and "victim" have said. If you can't at least be honest I am finished here.
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apologies... where you said 'reporter', I read 'union'.

My intent was to say that you have disputed everything the worker said, regardless of what you have factual knowledge of, and have tried to pass off your 'opinion', as fact... throwing a hissy fit ant anyone who disagrees with you.

Better?
 
Mellie said:
According to Hammet, and reported by KTLA-TV in Los Angeles, the union asked him to remove his hat and turn his sweatshirt inside-out so that the name “Bush” would not be visible. When he refused, Hammet says he was fired:
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This is how liberals REALLY look at "free speech".
 
USA-1 said:
They told him to take it off, turn it inside out or leave. The choice was his. Had a worker at a McCain rally been wearing a Clinton shirt what do you think would have happened?
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So the US Navy is now insulting to union members? seriously?
 
MaggieD said:
Oh, yes, you can, American. Unless someone has an employment contract, they can be fired 'cause they have blue eyes. (Exception would be discrimination of protected classes.)
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Not really, not when they have to explain it to a labor board.
 
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