A question

[Craig234]

Should anyone be allowed to say their religion told them thousands of years ago they're given land, and to violently take that land from the people on it, take their positions, kill people, etc., or should only the rogue stayed be allowed to do that, but not others? If only them, what is the justification to only let them do it? Or should laws about legal national behavior, sovereignty, human rights, etc. apply regardless of their religious claims?

 

[roberthughey]

Who gave us the state of Israel?

 

[lwf]

Should anyone be allowed to say their religion told them thousands of years ago they're given land, and to violently take that land from the people on it, take their positions, kill people, etc.

No. They shouldn't. Neither Israelis nor Palestinians are entitled to the current property of the other, regardless of what their religion claims or whether or not it was stolen from their ancestors.

 

[soylentgreen]

Should anyone be allowed to say their religion told them thousands of years ago they're given land, and to violently take that land from the people on it, take their positions, kill people, etc., or should only the rogue stayed be allowed to do that, but not others? If only them, what is the justification to only let them do it? Or should laws about legal national behavior, sovereignty, human rights, etc. apply regardless of their religious claims?

It was not a thousand of years ago. It was only just over 500 years ago. If it was about legal rights then who does america belong to?
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/spotlight-primary-source/doctrine-discovery-1493

The Papal Bull "Inter Caetera," issued by Pope Alexander VI on May 4, 1493, played a central role in the Spanish conquest of the New World. The Bull stated that any land not inhabited by Christians was available to be "discovered," claimed, and exploited by Christian rulers and declared that "the Catholic faith and the Christian religion be exalted and be everywhere increased and spread, that the health of souls be cared for and that barbarous nations be overthrown and brought to the faith itself." This "Doctrine of Discovery" became the basis of all European claims in the Americas as well as the foundation for the United States’ western expansion. In the US Supreme Court in the 1823 case Johnson v. McIntosh, Chief Justice John Marshall’s opinion in the unanimous decision held "that the principle of discovery gave European nations an absolute right to New World lands." In essence, American Indians had only a right of occupancy, which could be abolished.