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I don't only look it from that point of view. These things are only effectively discussed when the reasoning is narrowly contrued. I was
replying only to the point made about ending up in the justice system.
Your ideology is based on presuppositions I rejectSo you just posted a bunch of 'na huh'...and no counter argument...because as usual, you dont have one. Not a legal, practical, nor moral one. Nothing new at all.
It’s not constitutional. Roe is gone. I’m not pretending anymoreNope, it's a matter that's clearly Constitutional, and changing that is more than 'merely' legislation.
Probably for practical political reasons. There’s nothing wrong with imposing moderate abortion restrictions then simply ratcheting tighter every couple of yearsWhy has no state yet made having an abortion a criminal act?
I am not going to argue your likely fictional talesI was responding to your claim that illegal abortion stats prior to Roe v Wade were made up. And I speak truth. My grandmother's house was intel central and I heard the stories told by women who had illegal abortions.
Evidence from women who lived the nightmare of illegal abortions. You believe the words of a converted abortionist whom you never met.
Did it make you squirm? Did it remind you once of the ugliness of religious belief? Here's another anecdote for you. After having 6 kids while being a good practicing Catholic, my grandfather went to his priest for help supporting his family when he was out of work. The priest told him to stop having sex. My grandfather told him to go *uck himself and then told my grandmother to starting using a diaphragm.
P.S. Two women got pregnant with the handsome visiting priest, a gorgeous hunk of manliness straight from County Cork. Can you guess who arranged for their abortions?
How many chemical abortions (via pill) were there before Dobbs in Texas vs. now?I am not going to argue your likely fictional tales
Truth is difficult for you especially when you're proved wrong.I am not going to argue your likely fictional tales
Your ideology is based on presuppositions I reject
It’s not constitutional. Roe is gone. I’m not pretending anymore
Probably for practical political reasons. There’s nothing wrong with imposing moderate abortion restrictions then simply ratcheting tighter every couple of years
It seems to me that it is not a zero sum game; if one has a life the other does not. If a woman bears a child and gives the child upIt is...so why should that choice, that chance at life...and all it's about living every day...family, friends, working, learning, failing, succeeding, serving, contributing, creating...be taken from the woman in order to produce a kid? It's the same thing...why would you take that chance from the woman and instead give it to the unborn?
It's called self-determination. Why do you believe the unborn is more deserving of that than the woman? She's the one that suffers, may even suffer permanent health damage, knows what she's risked and lost or where she's failed in her commitments to others, etc. The unborn suffers nothing.
That's for the woman to decide.So it is better that the baby not have a chance at life because they MAY grow up angry.
Nope. Life throws obstacles in our way. But most people would probably prefer to have none and enjoy life, live it up, ect.. Then there are those who cannot overcome obstacles. As the old saying goes, "life's a bitch and then you die."I thought that's what life was all about,
overcoming obstacles, rising above a bad upbringing, etc.
On this we agree! Unless your being facetious, in which case....well never mind.
It seems to me that it is not a zero sum game; if one has a life the other does not. If a woman bears a child and gives the child up
for adoption, how does it follow that the woman will have no life. I guess I don't get it.
It's your claim...you google it...or it's BS. I asked you first, you made the first claim.
Source that "10s of thousands of abortions have not happened because of the repeal of Roe"
Facetious?
No way.
I am a violence survivor.
So the more abortions, the less violent crime.
Which is exactly why the choice should always be up to the woman. Thank you Parser, I understand you..Some, not all, unwanted children grow up angry and take it out in violence.
If a woman is forced to give birth against her will, one can imagine what kind of mother she will be.
Why would you bother digging up responses for him?
To expose lies.
That would limit a large amount of discussion hereNever tag or quote the liars who make stuff up. When you do that, you are giving the trolls want they want: arguments. It is extremely important that trolls never know when they see the truth their lying is working.
That would limit a large amount of discussion here.
How many chemical abortions (via pill) were there before Dobbs in Texas vs. now?
You lack the necessary paranoia for modern American society.Period trackers? Why would the government care about women transporting those, whatever they are?
Only if you put all of the anti-choicers on your ignore list and do not expose any of their lies. My recommendation is simply don't let trolls know trolling gives them what they want.
Period trackers? Why would the government care about women transporting those, whatever they are?
As far as I am concerned, unless have irregular periods and must take estrogen pills to regulate them, there is no need for a "period tracker" anyway.
Is it?This is a meme the democrats invented, that if a woman has a period tracker all and her period is late she’ll be disappeared by shadowy Republican secret police on suspicion of having an abortion.
It’s a dumb thing feminists have been spreading
Because they went to other states.No, actually just banning abortion. We already know that tens of thousands of abortions have not happened because of the repeal of Roe. Texas went from 2700 abortions to less then 10.
You lack the necessary paranoia for modern American society.
Wow. I kept track of my period starting in high school in the 70s. The Hallmark stores always had a small purse size calendar for the year and I bought one every January. I kept track in that small calendar in my purse. All my friends kept track. I didn't know that people didn't keep track.
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