A caviat to following Jesus

[it's just me]

Only in the land of Da Nile.

You ought to know, you live there....

 

[OlNate]

What immigration policy? Oh, the one about it being illegal to cross our border without permission? That has been a law for as long as I can remember, it's not a "Trump policy". And the rest of this stuff are not "policies" and I don't even know if they are true, but if peeping into other people's bedroom windows is your thing knock yourself out. I thought this was appropriate:

"The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts. His ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them. He hath said in his heart, I shall not be moved: for I shall never be in adversity. His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity. He sitteth in the lurking places of the villages: in the secret places doth he murder the innocent: his eyes are privily set against the poor. He lieth in wait secretly as a lion in his den: he lieth in wait to catch the poor: he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him into his net."

Book, chapter, verse if you're gonna throw scripture at me. Let me show you the proper format:

You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19

The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34

‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’
Leviticus 27:19

You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
Ezekiel 47:22

Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.
Zechariah 7:9-10

Let mutual love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it. Remember those who are in prison, as though you were in prison with them; those who are being tortured, as though you yourselves were being tortured.
Hebrews 13:1-3

Like that, bud. That's how you quote scripture. I don't really do the whole King James version, so the reference lets me look it up independently, so I can try to figure out what you're desperately trying to pin on me.

Since I'm still waiting for a serious response, how I'll just drop something funny yet relevant...you know, to pass the time while you try to think up an argument.

 

[it's just me]

Book, chapter, verse if you're gonna throw scripture at me. Let me show you the proper format:

You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19

The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34

‘Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.’ Then all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’
Leviticus 27:19

You shall allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who reside among you and have begotten children among you. They shall be to you as citizens of Israel; with you they shall be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
Ezekiel 47:22

Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.
Zechariah 7:9-10

Let mutual love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by doing that some have entertained angels without knowing it. Remember those who are in prison, as though you were in prison with them; those who are being tortured, as though you yourselves were being tortured.
Hebrews 13:1-3

Like that, bud. That's how you quote scripture. I don't really do the whole King James version, so the reference lets me look it up independently, so I can try to figure out what you're desperately trying to pin on me.

Since I'm still waiting for a serious response, how I'll just drop something funny yet relevant...you know, to pass the time while you try to think up an argument.

I would think someone who is as Christian as you are would recognize the quotes. Other than that, none of these quotes you supplied applies to the current situation, but I knew it would be something like that, and some of those leave you with three fingers pointing back at you. Just leftist talking points.

But if it will make you feel any better, how about if we funnel all of the illegals up to you and you can deal with them? What's that? Canada has laws, too? How inconvenient.

P.S. Bill Maher is an asshole.

 

[OlNate]

I would think someone who is as Christian as you are would recognize the quotes. Other than that, none of these quotes you supplied applies to the current situation, but I knew it would be something like that, and some of those leave you with three fingers pointing back at you. Just leftist talking points.

But if it will make you feel any better, how about if we funnel all of the illegals up to you and you can deal with them? What's that? Canada has laws, too? How inconvenient.

P.S. Bill Maher is an asshole.

Actually, what makes me feel better is that you weren't able to refute anything I said, so you took the cowardly way out and went directly back to your partisan cry closet. So far you haven't negated anything I've said, despite a lot of furious typing...lol...

Not that it's relevant to what we're discussing, but yes, Canada has laws...we're also the country who took in the greatest number of refugees, despite our tiny size. Want the link? You know I got it...

 

[it's just me]

Actually, what makes me feel better is that you weren't able to refute anything I said, so you took the cowardly way out and went directly back to your partisan cry closet. So far you haven't negated anything I've said, despite a lot of furious typing...lol...

Not that it's relevant to what we're discussing, but yes, Canada has laws...we're also the country who took in the greatest number of refugees, despite our tiny size. Want the link? You know I got it...

I don't have to refute you, a thinking person knows that the USA is not a theocracy. I don't make the laws. The Church doesn't make the laws. There is literally nothing I can do about it even if I wanted to, and I don't want to.

Paul said "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour." (You can look that up)

In other words, obey the law, and I don't make the laws and neither do you. If you want to do something, do it, but don't lay your guilty white liberal trip on me.

Now if you are done with your lame assed virtue signaling, I'll be on my way.

 

[OlNate]

I don't have to refute you, a thinking person knows that the USA is not a theocracy. I don't make the laws. The Church doesn't make the laws. There is literally nothing I can do about it even if I wanted to, and I don't want to.

Paul said "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour." (You can look that up)

In other words, obey the law, and I don't make the laws and neither do you. If you want to do something, do it, but don't lay your guilty white liberal trip on me.

Now if you are done with your lame assed virtue signaling, I'll be on my way.

lol...you can be on your way any time you like, bud, no one's forcing you to stay here and be wrong... :shrug:

Nothing in what I've said has anything to do with obeying the law. So, you fail there. It is about who you support, who you vote for, who you, as a Christian, pick to be your leader. You wanna try again, or are you already busy retreating?

 

[it's just me]

lol...you can be on your way any time you like, bud, no one's forcing you to stay here and be wrong... :shrug:

Nothing in what I've said has anything to do with obeying the law. So, you fail there. It is about who you support, who you vote for, who you, as a Christian, pick to be your leader. You wanna try again, or are you already busy retreating?

Just as I thought, that post of yours is all about politics and it had nothing to do with Christianity, but I had to go around and around with you for three hours before you'd admit it. Yes, I will vote for him again, just to piss you off.

 

[OlNate]

Just as I thought, that post of yours is all about politics and it had nothing to do with Christianity, but I had to go around and around with you for three hours before you'd admit it. Yes, I will vote for him again, just to piss you off.

Uh, I would have thought that by saying it is impossible to be both a Christian and a Trump supporter would have been enough to qualify my statement as political... Sorry, you just got that now? Man, you really should rethink this whole online debate thing...

And don't worry, I was never in any confusion about you...what you are (and are not) and what you will vote. Though I do find it flattering that I've made such an impact on you as to influence how you will vote.... :lol:

Anything else you wanna talk about? I'm happy to talk to anyone so willing to prove my point.

 

[it's just me]

Uh, I would have thought that by saying it is impossible to be both a Christian and a Trump supporter would have been enough to qualify my statement as political... Sorry, you just got that now? Man, you really should rethink this whole online debate thing...

And don't worry, I was never in any confusion about you...what you are (and are not) and what you will vote. Though I do find it flattering that I've made such an impact on you as to influence how you will vote.... :lol:

Anything else you wanna talk about? I'm happy to talk to anyone so willing to prove my point.

Well, you didn't have any proof that our president had done anything wrong, so you decide to take potshots at Christians. Its never ending source of amazement to me how libs are capable of saying nothing and declaring themselves victorious. And this ain't even your country!

Seek help.

 

[calamity]

Well, you didn't have any proof that our president had done anything wrong, so you decide to take potshots at Christians. Its never ending source of amazement to me how libs are capable of saying nothing and declaring themselves victorious. And this ain't even your country!

Seek help.

lol...Jesus will not much appreciate lies and his followers intentionally being obtuse.

 

[OlNate]

Well, you didn't have any proof that our president had done anything wrong, so you decide to take potshots at Christians. Its never ending source of amazement to me how libs are capable of saying nothing and declaring themselves victorious. And this ain't even your country!

Seek help.

Nah, clearly there's no help required in sorting you out, you basically do my job for me. :shrug:

As for declarations of victory, you announced my victory the moment you quoted me in this thread the first time. I've given you evidence. You're just too stupid and fanatical to accept it. Trust me, that won't cost me any sleep tonight.

Better luck next time, big fella...you tried so hard, though, I almost feel bad... :lamo A for effort, and all of that.

 

[it's just me]

Nah, clearly there's no help required in sorting you out, you basically do my job for me. :shrug:

As for declarations of victory, you announced my victory the moment you quoted me in this thread the first time. I've given you evidence. You're just too stupid and fanatical to accept it. Trust me, that won't cost me any sleep tonight.

Better luck next time, big fella...you tried so hard, though, I almost feel bad... :lamo A for effort, and all of that.

I could say the same thing about you...and I'd be right.

 

[OlNate]

I could say the same thing about you...and I'd be right.

Are you still quoting me? This is awkward...I don't know how to put it....I'll type slowly: I beat you. You said nothing. Go away now. You've gotten as much attention as I plan to give you. Run. Along. Bye.

 

[Rumpelstil]

(sorry, it's Caveat)

That's what it is.

 

[it's just me]

Are you still quoting me? This is awkward...I don't know how to put it....I'll type slowly: I beat you. You said nothing. Go away now. You've gotten as much attention as I plan to give you. Run. Along. Bye.

Good idea. Quit while you're behind. You're dismissed.

 

[Rumpelstil]

You're dismissed.

Ite, missa est = you are dismissed.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Is THAT gonna be the right wingers excuse for being pariahs? They only hate us CUZ JEsus? We hate you right wingers cuz you are immoral, unprincipled, revengeful, petty, selfish, hateful, envious, all the things that will havae Jesus your enemy, not your savior.

You want to kill unborn babies, take money from those who work to earn it and give it to those who don't and you call us immoral? HMMMM!!

 

[calamity]

You want to kill unborn babies, take money from those who work to earn it and give it to those who don't and you call us immoral? HMMMM!!

The "killing" of the unborn is between the mother and her god. Why must you pretend you care?

 

[Geoist]

I don't know your family members, only that they are one family whom you describe as "loopy." Whether it's my family or yours, one family doesn't "prove" anything" and is only "anecdotal"--hence my personal problem comment.

I also have friends and co-workers who have loopy Trump-loving family members. But yeah, you're right, I'm sure we're ALL the exceptions to the norm. :roll:

 

[distraff]

(sorry, it's Caveat)

If u sincerely follow Jesus, u will be persecuted, misunderstood and rejected

Your own family will attack u..friends will desert u

You will often wonder if it's worth it

God won't totally protect u from Satan and his nasty followers

When u merely follow Truth

Ditto

Jesus is another word for Truth...

Ppl attack bc it is human nature to hate objective truth

70% of the US is Christian. You will be just fine. But of you come out as atheist in a Christian family, now that is hit or miss.

 

[nota bene]

I also have friends and co-workers who have loopy Trump-loving family members. But yeah, you're right, I'm sure we're ALL the exceptions to the norm. :roll:

I'm sure we all have loopy family members--and also family "black sheep" and etc. Being "loopy" isn't necessarily a political thing.