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9/11: The Israeli involvement

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IN MEMORY OF 9/11 VICTIMS

1-The Five dancing Israelis:
The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards.
… They were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.
… One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

… When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!
According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:
"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem."
… The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel.
… Suter was later placed on the same FBI suspect list as 9/11 lead hijacker Mohammed Atta and other hijackers and suspected al-Qaeda sympathizers, suggesting that U.S. authorities felt Suter may have known something about the attacks.
… The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers' vans are a common intelligence cover. The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released.
"There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11."
Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. OUR PURPOSE WAS TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT."

YouTube - Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is Classified

There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda "terrorist network" to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.
"I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a SOVEREIGN FOREIGN GOVERNMENT ... It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now" - Senator Bob Graham.
"EVIDENCE LINKING THESE ISRAELIS TO 9/11 IS CLASSIFIED. I CANNOT TELL YOU ABOUT EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN GATHERED. IT'S CLASSIFIED INFORMATION." US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.



2- THE TWO HOUR ADVANCE WARNING:
The story on Israeli spying inside the focused on three companies, Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for most American phone companies, Comverse Infosys, which installs and mainstains telephone tapping equipment for US law enforcement, and Odigo, which provides services for the various "Instant Message" systems on your computer. All three companies are owned by Israel and have strong ties to the Israeli Defense Force.
Odigo, which had offices near the World Trade Towers, is THE COMPANY WHICH RECEIVED A TWO HOUR ADVANCE WARNING OF THE ATTACKS OF 9-11.

3- The 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11:

Fox News, alone of all the media, actually ran the story as a four part broadcast, and put the story up on its web site. Then, without explanation, Fox News erased the story from their web site and have never mentioned it again. CNN followed by "Orwellizing" their report OF THE TWO HOUR ADVANCE WARNING of the WTC attacks sent to Odigo employees. But far more telling is the admission made by a US Official in part one of the Fox News report that hard evidence existed linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the more than 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, but that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.

"EVIDENCE LINKING THESE ISRAELIS TO 9/11 IS CLASSIFIED. I CANNOT TELL YOU ABOUT EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN GATHERED. IT'S CLASSIFIED INFORMATION."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.
 
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So you have one video by the worst name in News, and no sources for the rest of your information?
 
This piece of the puzzle seems to fit here:

Think of this as part two of Recherche du trillions perdu, my Online Journal article on Dov Zakheim, former Bush appointee as Pentagon Comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004. At that time he was unable to explain the disappearance of $1 trillion dollars. Actually, nearly three years earlier, Donald Rumsfeld announced on September 10, 2001 that an audit discovered $2.3 trillion was also missing from the Pentagon books. That story, as I mentioned, was buried under 9-11’s rubble. The two sums disappeared on Zakheim’s watch.

Following Zakheim and Pentagon trillions to Israel and 9-11
 
Alex33 said:
"EVIDENCE LINKING THESE ISRAELIS TO 9/11 IS CLASSIFIED. I CANNOT TELL YOU ABOUT EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN GATHERED. IT'S CLASSIFIED INFORMATION."
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You're even weirder than conquer :rofl
 
Why aren't peoples you tube videos showing up?
 
Tashah said:
I can see them just fine.

Oops. You're not supposed to know that. Clasified and all. :2razz:
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Well some peoples show up , and other don't. I suspect its the fault of people who use Firefox.
 
If some Israelis were involved, why wouldn't at least one
of them crack and admit it? I've heard many times on talk
radio that conspiracies don't work because someone always
cracks and spills the beans.
 
lawshume said:
If some Israelis were involved, why wouldn't at least one
of them crack and admit it? I've heard many times on talk
radio that conspiracies don't work because someone always
cracks and spills the beans.
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What about the 5 Israelis who were arrested when celebrating the WTC collapse? They told authorities their job was to "document the event." I think they were released...:doh

Furthermore, are you aware that Rudy Giuliani admitted he was warned that the south tower was going to collapse? How strange, that admission was never pursued by the media.

In an ABC News interview, Giuliani states that he was "told that the World Trade Center was gonna' collapse," and that it did collapse, referring to the 9:59 destruction of the South Towers, and implies that that the warning was not well in advance of the event.

"I .. I went down to the scene and we set up a headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna' to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit, got out, walked north, and took a lot of people with us."
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9-11 Research: Giuliani Warned
 
Chanda said:
Furthermore, are you aware that Rudy Giuliani admitted he was warned that the south tower was going to collapse? How strange, that admission was never pursued by the media.



9-11 Research: Giuliani Warned
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Yes, he couldn't have been warned by firefighters who know the signs of when a burning building will collapse...It was obviously a conspiracy to save Giuliani so he could run in the primary last year.
 
I could have told you it was going to collapse, and I was in the 7th grade.

Wait. Maybe Rudy is part of the Israel coalition to destroy any and everything that is good in the world. Swear to god, they touch my coffee I will brutally mutilate every single one of them.
 
RightOfCenter said:
Yes, he couldn't have been warned by firefighters who know the signs of when a burning building will collapse...It was obviously a conspiracy to save Giuliani so he could run in the primary last year.
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The firefighters didn't expect a steel framed building to collapse, since it has never happened before.

Oh yeah, and why didn't the firefighters get themselves out, since they "know the signs"? 343 firefighters died in the WTC collapses.
 
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I think if Giuliani was warned in advance about a collapse,
the media would have said something about it. You don't
think the media is part of some conspiracy, do you ?
 
lawshume said:
I think if Giuliani was warned in advance about a collapse,
the media would have said something about it. You don't
think the media is part of some conspiracy, do you ?
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What do you mean, "if"? Did you read his exact words? It was part of an ABC interview, btw.
 
Chanda said:
The firefighters didn't expect a steel framed building to collapse, since it has never happened before.

Oh yeah, and why didn't the firefighters get themselves out, since they "know the signs"? 343 firefighters died in the WTC collapses.
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The fire department asked several times for a new radio system since the one they had did not work. Giuliani gave them a new radio system that did not work.

That day, the fire chief told them to evacuate. Instead of the firemen answering the radio, the police did. They answered because the radio system did not work. So he tried again a bit later and told the firemen to evacuate. Still they did not.

Here is a video explaining more of this:
YouTube - Giuliani Gets Exposed As Fraud by Firefighters
 
The fire department asked several times for a new radio system since the one they had did not work. Giuliani gave them a new radio system that did not work.

That day, the fire chief told them to evacuate. Instead of the firemen answering the radio, the police did. They answered because the radio system did not work. So he tried again a bit later and told the firemen to evacuate. Still they did not.
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That clinches it! Since the firefighters were given faulty radios, the government blew up the WTC.

It's all so clear now!

So do we drink the Kool Aid now or later?
 
Chanda said:
The firefighters didn't expect a steel framed building to collapse, since it has never happened before.

Oh yeah, and why didn't the firefighters get themselves out, since they "know the signs"? 343 firefighters died in the WTC collapses.
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Because they couldn't. They were in the stairwells coming back from the impact site, and trying to get people out of the building.
 
Moon said:
Because they couldn't. They were in the stairwells coming back from the impact site, and trying to get people out of the building.
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The firefighters were unaware of the impending collapse. You need to read first responders' oral histories that are available online. The source of the warning was the Office of Emergency Management. Think about it, why would the OEM know the building would collapse when the FDNY didn't know? From the oral history of Richard Zarillo:

"As I was walking towards the Fire command post, I found Steve Mosiello. I said, Steve, where's the boss? I have to give him a message. He said, well, what's the message? I said the buildings are going to collapse; we need to evac everybody out. With a very confused look he said who told you that? I said I was just with John at OEM. OEM says the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get out.

He escorted me over to Chief Ganci. He said, hey, Pete, we got a message that the buildings are going to collapse. His reply was who the f___ told you that? Then Steve brought me in and with Chief Ganci, Commissioner Feehan, Steve, I believe Chief Turi was initially there, I said, listen, I was just at OEM. The message I was given was that the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get our people out. At that moment, this thunderous, rolling roar came down and that's when the building came down, the first tower came down."

Chief Ganci died in the collapse.
 
Chanda said:
The firefighters were unaware of the impending collapse. You need to read first responders' oral histories that are available online. The source of the warning was the Office of Emergency Management. Think about it, why would the OEM know the building would collapse when the FDNY didn't know? From the oral history of Richard Zarillo:

"As I was walking towards the Fire command post, I found Steve Mosiello. I said, Steve, where's the boss? I have to give him a message. He said, well, what's the message? I said the buildings are going to collapse; we need to evac everybody out. With a very confused look he said who told you that? I said I was just with John at OEM. OEM says the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get out.

He escorted me over to Chief Ganci. He said, hey, Pete, we got a message that the buildings are going to collapse. His reply was who the f___ told you that? Then Steve brought me in and with Chief Ganci, Commissioner Feehan, Steve, I believe Chief Turi was initially there, I said, listen, I was just at OEM. The message I was given was that the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get our people out. At that moment, this thunderous, rolling roar came down and that's when the building came down, the first tower came down."

Chief Ganci died in the collapse.
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Why would they know the building was going to collapse? If they even suspected that it might, that should be enough to generate an evacuation warning, don't you think?
 
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