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5 Things many Witnesses may come to regret sooner or later.

Because the Godhead dwells bodily in Christ, Jesus could rightly claim that He and the Father are “one” (John 10:30). Because the fullness of God’s divine essence is present in the Son of God, Jesus could say to Philip, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9).

Because Jesus said His Father is in him, thus the confession of Thomas.

In summary, the Godhead is the essence of the Divine Being; the Godhead is the one and only Deity. Jesus, the incarnate Godhead, entered our world and showed us exactly who God is: “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known” (John 1:18; cf. Hebrews 1:3). Full article found here: https://www.gotquestions.org/Godhead.html

Lol, guess that's one way to make up things. Scripture says no one has ever seen God, yet you say Jesus is God, so many have seen God.
 
Because Jesus said His Father is in him, thus the confession of Thomas.



Lol, guess that's one way to make up things. Scripture says no one has ever seen God, yet you say Jesus is God, so many have seen God.
That is exactly how people come up with contradictions in the Bible, by twisting them to mean something they don't...yet, they cannot see that...SMH...
 
Considering the immediate context of Colossians 2:9, it is noted that in verse 8, Christians are warned against being misled by those who advocate philosophy and human tradition. They are also told that “carefully concealed in [Christ] are all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge,” and they are urged to “go on walking in union with him, rooted and being built up in him and being stabilized in the faith.” (Col 2:3, 6, 7) In addition, verses 13 to 15 explain that they are made alive through faith, being released from the Law covenant. Paul’s argument, therefore, is that Christians do not need the Law (which was removed by means of Christ) or human philosophy and tradition. They have all they need, a precious “fullness,” in Christ.—Col 2:10-12.

Finally, at 2 Peter 1:3, 4 the apostle shows that by virtue of “the precious and very grand promises” extended to faithful anointed Christians, they “may become sharers in divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world through lust.” Elsewhere in the Scriptures, Christians are referred to as ‘sharing’ with Christ in his sufferings, in a death like his, and in a resurrection like his to immortality as spirit creatures, becoming joint heirs with him in the heavenly Kingdom. (1Co 15:50-54; Php 3:10, 11; 1Pe 5:1; 2Pe 1:2-4; Re 20:6) Thus it is evident that the sharing of Christians in “divine nature” is a sharing with Christ in his glory.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001201
We share in CHRIST's suffering as a believer. That doesn't mean that we get personally nailed to the cross, but it does mean that the FATHER sees the believer through CHRIST. Believers do not take on a divine nature, but believers are seen divinely through CHRIST who in fact is divine. It's also interesting to note that GOD sees all those who are not saved as already dead. Though such do live and walk around and interact with believers. And so if one can be DEAD though living. I see no reason one can be still existing though regarded as having died. It would say that the hollow and deceptive philosophy and human traditions can to a strong degree be laid at the door of JWs who have their own Bible, various magazine, and their own form of worship and song to substantiate their own directive that belittles CHRIST in whom ALL THE FULLNESS EXISTS in BODILY FORM.
Colossians 2:1-15

1 I want you to know how hard I am contending for you and for those at Laodicea, and for all who have not met me personally. 2 My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they who in ALL the FULLNESS lay have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ, 3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4 I tell you this so that no one may deceive you by fine-sounding arguments. 5 For though I am absent from you in body, I am present with you in spirit and delight to see how disciplined you are and how firm your faith in Christ is.

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Spiritual Fullness in Christ​

6 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in him, 7 rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.

8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.

9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority. 11 In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.

13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
 
Scripture says no one has ever seen God, yet you say Jesus is God, so many have seen God.
BUT, once again, you have forgotten the reality that JESUS had taken on a human persona so that HE could accomplish what HE wished to do in order that those who have faith in HIM might be saved.
Philippians 2:5-8
In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

Actually, I feel that those that were there and walked with JESUS had the opportunity to look into the eyes of GOD and be touched by HIM. But that is a mystery. Witnesses love to stick to select verses but they fail when it comes to putting all the pieces of the puzzle together. They will never regard the entire picture because it would mean that they and their ancestors have been in ERROR and died missing the reality of CHRIST. But such are good Witnesses to say the least. However, one isn't saved because he or she is a Jehovah's Witness. Belonging to CHRIST is the only way to be SAVED. However, they do not worship CHRIST ---- do they...
 
BUT, once again, you have forgotten the reality that JESUS had taken on a human persona so that HE could accomplish what HE wished to do in order that those who have faith in HIM might be saved.
Philippians 2:5-8
In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

Been over these scriptures numerous times. You all say he is God, a co-equal member of a trinity, yet here we see Jesus thought being equal to God is not something he would use to his own advantage......so why in the world is this hang-up on the trinity doctrine. Not including the fact that Jesus believed and told us that the only true God is His Father.

Actually, I feel that those that were there and walked with JESUS had the opportunity to look into the eyes of GOD and be touched by HIM. But that is a mystery. Witnesses love to stick to select verses but they fail when it comes to putting all the pieces of the puzzle together. They will never regard the entire picture because it would mean that they and their ancestors have been in ERROR and died missing the reality of CHRIST. But such are good Witnesses to say the least. However, one isn't saved because he or she is a Jehovah's Witness. Belonging to CHRIST is the only way to be SAVED. However, they do not worship CHRIST ---- do they...

The mystery was that the Father was 'in' Christ.....a teaching the disciples had a hard time comprehending, but once Jesus was raised from the dead their eyes were opened. Thomas' confession makes it clear, he now understood this teaching of Jesus.

The gospel was never about the Christ of God being God himself, a member of a triune God.....that's all Hollywood Christianity, worldly religion.

You might want to get over this hang-up on Jehovah Witnesses, especially when you are espousing false doctrine.
 
Been over these scriptures numerous times. You all say he is God, a co-equal member of a trinity, yet here we see Jesus thought being equal to God is not something he would use to his own advantage......so why in the world is this hang-up on the trinity doctrine. Not including the fact that Jesus believed and told us that the only true God is His Father.
Plain as day and yet there are those who cannot see it...no other explanation but what Paul described...

"If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through." 2 Corinthians 3,4

You might want to get over this hang-up on Jehovah Witnesses, especially when you are espousing false doctrine.
lol...yeah, we seem to have that effect on certain people...Satan has been doing his best to stop the truth from being revealed for centuries now but he cannot succeed...the truth is still here/still shines through...
 
lol...yeah, we seem to have that effect on certain people.
Of course, this is to be expected when a controversial fringe Christian group with a well documented history of hiding child sex abuse within its ranks claims without any proof whatsoever that over 2 billion other Christians "follow a False Religion which comes from Satan".

An outrageous, unproven claim such as the JWO preaches/teaches about other Christians is not going to be well received --- understandably so. And tossing such a damning accusation is most certainly nothing to "lol" about.
 
Of course, this is to be expected when a controversial fringe Christian group with a well documented history of hiding child sex abuse within its ranks claims without any proof whatsoever that over 2 billion other Christians "follow a False Religion which comes from Satan".

An outrageous, unproven claim such as the JWO preaches/teaches about other Christians is not going to be well received --- understandably so. And tossing such a damning accusation is most certainly nothing to "lol" about.

What?....because they're a majority, they're above reproach? The truth of Christ has never been with the majority, never was, not now, nor will ever. Most take the broad way, follow the lead of the many, afraid to come out of them, etc.

Buried treasure is not on or even close to a well beaten path. Basically showing scripture is true, for the prophecy of a huge group being deceived has come true, growing for millennia to a huge majority of deceived Christians.

Human nature might want you to stay in the comfort of the majority.....go ahead, have fun.
 
Been over these scriptures numerous times. You all say he is God, a co-equal member of a trinity, yet here we see Jesus though being equal to God is not something he would use to his own advantage......so why in the world is this hang-up on the trinity doctrine. Not including the fact that Jesus believed and told us that the only true God is His Father.

Why would any SON wish to take advantage of a loving Father. You seem to overlook the line "JESUS though being EQUAL with GOD." Unless JESUS is GOD, HE cannot be equal with GOD. So there is you first clue that JESUS is GOD, but since HE and the FATHER are ONE and working together, JESUS isn't about to take advantage of HIS position. Yes, JESUS is saying that HIS FATHER is the only true GOD, but HE also says that HE is the exact image of the FATHER and that HE and the FATHER are one. So, JESUS what is true about the FATHER is true about ME.
The mystery was that the Father was 'in' Christ.....a teaching the disciples had a hard time comprehending, but once Jesus was raised from the dead their eyes were opened. Thomas' confession makes it clear, he now understood this teaching of Jesus.

The mystery is that you don't imagine that if the FATHER is in CHRIST, that they are one together and both one GOD along with the Holy Spirit.
The gospel was never about the Christ of God being God himself, a member of a triune God.....that's all Hollywood Christianity, worldly religion.

I don't know what you are talking about.
You might want to get over this hang-up on Jehovah Witnesses, especially when you are espousing false doctrine.
The Witnesses are a real estate ploy ---- much like the Mormons. Nearly everything they say and do is twisted in one way or another. JESUS CHRIST is GOD.
 
What?....because they're a majority, they're above reproach? The truth of Christ has never been with the majority, never was, not now, nor will ever. Most take the broad way, follow the lead of the many, afraid to come out of them, etc.

Buried treasure is not on or even close to a well beaten path. Basically showing scripture is true, for the prophecy of a huge group being deceived has come true, growing for millennia to a huge majority of deceived Christians.

Human nature might want you to stay in the comfort of the majority.....go ahead, have fun.
You seem to be upset that I addressed your unsubstantiated, bullshit claim that modern day trinitarian Christians would "steal, kill, and torture to save an Idolatrous trinity doctrine if the government would allow it", which of course is a 'you' problem.

Enjoy your day. ;)
 
Why would any SON wish to take advantage of a loving Father. You seem to overlook the line "JESUS though being EQUAL with GOD." Unless JESUS is GOD, HE cannot be equal with GOD. So there is you first clue that JESUS is GOD, but since HE and the FATHER are ONE and working together, JESUS isn't about to take advantage of HIS position. Yes, JESUS is saying that HIS FATHER is the only true GOD, but HE also says that HE is the exact image of the FATHER and that HE and the FATHER are one. So, JESUS what is true about the FATHER is true about ME.

This entire piece of scripture hinges upon the 5th verse:

(Php 2:5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:


Here Paul is teaching us how to think/act following the example of Jesus. He is not teaching or telling us that "Jesus is God" as you are misinterpreting. We cannot become God or think like God and neither is he telling us Jesus was......but it's an ensample to follow in humbleness.

The last verse in this section sums it up:


(Php 2:11) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus is our Lord to the glory of God the Father, for they both are not Gods, nor are we Gods when we humble ourselves by having the same mind.

The mystery is that you don't imagine that if the FATHER is in CHRIST, that they are one together and both one GOD along with the Holy Spirit.

God give us His Spirit through His Son in spirit and power giving us a witness no man can take away. I know of this mystery and it's not the trinity.

I don't know what you are talking about.

I'm talking about the "Christ of God" was never said or thought to be "God Himself"....scripturally correct. Hollywood Christianity teaches the fantasy that the Christ OF God IS God, a deception of monumental proportions.

The Witnesses are a real estate ploy ---- much like the Mormons. Nearly everything they say and do is twisted in one way or another. JESUS CHRIST is GOD.

Or maybe because they don't believe in your precious trinity doctrine, idk.
 
You seem to be upset that I addressed your unsubstantiated, bullshit claim that modern day trinitarian Christians would "steal, kill, and torture to save an Idolatrous trinity doctrine if the government would allow it", which of course is a 'you' problem.

Enjoy your day. ;)

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.....I always enjoy seeing people with mud on their face.
 
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.....I always enjoy seeing people with mud on their face.
Egg is even better... ☺️

"To have egg on your face" is an idiom that means to be embarrassed or humiliated, especially because something you said or did turned out to be wrong or foolish. It implies a situation where you have been made to look bad or foolish, often due to your own actions or statements.
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Egg is even better... ☺️

"To have egg on your face" is an idiom that means to be embarrassed or humiliated, especially because something you said or did turned out to be wrong or foolish. It implies a situation where you have been made to look bad or foolish, often due to your own actions or statements.
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redbeer said:
It's mainly the trinity doctrine. They actually believe the Almighty God became a mortal human being, but it wasn't really Him who died on the cross, just one of His natures.....go figure.

They've made a God after their own likeness calling him the "Godman" for goodness sakes. Stand indifferent to this ideology, get ready, for here comes the insults, accusations, all manner of wild imaginings to destroy your character, all in the name of this "Godman".

Back in the day, it was sanctioned by the government when they tortured, killed, and plundered all in the name of this "Godman" and if it goes that way again, these too will kill, steal, and do horrendous things for the sanctity of this idolatrous doctrine.......bet your bottom dollar.
 
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