475 detained during immigration raid at Hyundai’s U.S. EV site: homeland security

[Luce]

Why do you say that? Do you think they are unable to comply with US immigration and employment law?

That isn't the question. The question is, do they want to risk further capital in the USA?

They aren't going to abandon major projects and the US market.

Tell them that.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

They aren't going to abandon major projects and the US market.

Bullshit, and worse than pulling out, the admin is causing less investment by these companies in the US with this and other actions causing uncertainty indices to spike again;

Why We Teach International Trade and Foreign Direct Investment Together | Econbrowser

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[j brown's body]

Why do you say that? Do you think they are unable to comply with US immigration and employment law?

They aren't going to abandon major projects and the US market.

Perhaps it will be a wake up call for congress - Democrats - to address the visa laws without trying to insert other priorities.

Democrats don't control Congress.

Trump could issue an EO though.

BTW - It was Republicans who demanded that aid for Ukraine be added to the bi-partisan border bill that Trump sunk.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

I suppose they could, but the financial benefits of the US market still exist.

 

[dcsports]

Um, I just said [deflection removed]

Yes, you are talking about everything but the topic.

Yes, dramatic action against big violators is a common way to help push people toward voluntarily complying with the law.

 

[dcsports]

That isn't the question. The question is, do they want to risk further capital in the USA?

Tell them that.

That's a false premise though. It's only a risk if they feel they can't do those projects and comply with the laws of this country. They very much want access to US markets - it's a huge chunk of their business, extremely safe, and an area they want to grow.

Keep in mind that we're talking about a big company that does business in many countries. The US is NOT a difficult country to do business in.

 

[dcsports]

Bull....

More deflection.

 

[dcsports]

Democrats don't control Congress.

Democrats have been throwing up the barriers though, since Regan.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

the topic

If you are going ignore that Donny is backing down on this deportation action, thats fine, if you want to make argument about foreign business investment but then run away from it when shown it is in decline, thats fine too. You can keep whittling down your argument to meaningless blurts, as you always do with me, I'm used to it.

Thanks for all of the surrendering.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Democrats have been throwing up the barriers though, since Regan.

Oh, is that the topic?

Your posts are so hypocritical.

 

[Minerva]

It has been reported that the investigation took months to conduct. It would seem to me that someone would have gotten curious that all these South Koreans were working on a plant that major South Korean investors were involved in. Sounds like they should have gone to the State Department and made certain there were not waivers of some sort in place.
If not then then State should have gotten involved and negotiated through appropriate channels a solution to this.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

hey aren't going to abandon major projects and the US market.

cough....foxconn....cough...

 

[Michael Cole]

Trying hyperbole now? I would expect there to be people supervising the work that are legally able to work here - and less than half the people onsite. I'd also expect a relatively small number of technical specialists to be helping to install specialized equipment.

Forget the expecting. Count.



That's the construction crew for the Tesla semi plant. Frame and external.

This YouTuber has been documenting the plant's construction.

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I've already seen the videos. Check 'em out if you want. All the current work is inside construction. There are hundreds of cars in the parking lots. You can count those too, if you really wanna know.

Tesla Semi is 4msf with 3,000 positions at capacity, for comparison.

I didn't say anything about who is paying them. They should absolutely be able to work here, and not on an expired or tourist visa.

 

[Lisa]

That's a false premise though. It's only a risk if they feel they can't do those projects and comply with the laws of this country. They very much want access to US markets - it's a huge chunk of their business, extremely safe, and an area they want to grow.

Keep in mind that we're talking about a big company that does business in many countries. The US is NOT a difficult country to do business in.

Oops,

The raid at a Hyundai-LG battery plant in Georgia, in which Immigration and Customs Enforcement detained 475 workers despite having a warrant for only four, has largely been an international embarrassment for the United States. Most of the 300 South Koreans detained by ICE are now headed home, but one is sticking around — taking the Trump administration up on an offer to train American replacements at the site.

Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/1965219/hyundai-workers-trump-stay-train-americans/

 

[Lisa]

cough....foxconn....cough...

Intel in Ohio is facing the same fate,

NEW ALBANY, Ohio (WCMH) — Intel announced it will need to get external customers for its manufacturing division, or it may need to stop all work in Ohio.


Last week, Intel announced it is further slowing construction at its $28 billion manufacturing site in Licking County. Intel also said if it is unable to find external customers for a new manufacturing technology, it will likely have to stop all work in Ohio. The technology is called 14A and won’t debut until 2027, so Intel will have some time to try and acquire the customers it needs.

https://www.nbc4i.com/intel-in-ohio/intel-ohio-plant-likely-canceled-if-company-cant-get-new-manufacturing-customers/

 

[dcsports]

If you are going ignore [deflection]

I'm ignoring the off topic deflection, insults, etc.. Yes. Happy to discuss the topic.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

I'm ignoring the off topic deflection, insults, etc.. Yes. Happy to discuss the topic.

How about we talk about how Trump not only walked back the whole deportation threat - he also basically begged the South Korean workers to stay and finish their work?

 

[ClaraD]

How about we talk about how Trump not only walked back the whole deportation threat - he also basically begged the South Korean workers to stay and finish their work?

No kidding right? He just discovered how bad that will be when Georgia’s economy tanks

 

[The AntiDonald]

I honestly wonder if anyone in the Trump Administration has a brain? I mean we know the Fanboys who cheer it all on don't.

Well let's see how annoyed Hyundai is regarding their workers? If they're mad enough and they shut down the two Car Factories they have in Georgia then they'll guarantee a massive Unemployment within 90 days. Good times.

The Korean president has already made some pretty negative comments. He warns this kind of thing will cause not only Korea, bur other countries to re-think their investment strategy in the US.

GREAT JOB Donnie 2 dolls !!

 

[Stinger]

Good grief. I was a supplier to Nissan, Hyundai, Kia, Toyota and lots of their Tier 1 suppliers who built manufacturing plants here too. I was there at ll from ground up specifying the critical spare parts I supplied all for most of my career.

First these were NOT Hyundai employees. Hyundai like all the others are VERY well versed at the proper documentations their people need no matter the type of visit and have no problem getting them. The people here all entered on their own either illegally or stayed past their visa dates. They were hired by construction contractors and subcontractors as laborers skilled and unskilled. YES if you speak Korean that is an advantage if you speak Korean and English even more so. There will be LOTS of Koreans on site during that construction. Not so many once production starts, mainly higher management that reports back to corporate in Korea. In my 25+ years working with those companies the VAST majority from on tool mechanics to top level maintenance and engineering were Americans.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Trump is not as belligerent of an asshole as I thought he was, or maybe it's just the business community pushing back, saying, "WTF?! Man!"

President Trump sought to play cleanup amid backlash to an immigration raid at a Hyundai battery plant in Georgia, insisting in a post on social media that foreign experts would be welcomed to the U.S. for a “period of time” to train U.S. workers.

“When Foreign Companies who are building extremely complex products, machines, and various other ‘things,’ come into the United States with massive Investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise for a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these very unique and complex products, as they phase out of our Country, and back into their land,” Trump posted late Sunday.

“If we didn’t do this, all of that massive Investment will never come in the first place — Chips, Semiconductors, Computers, Ships, Trains, and so many other products that we have to learn from others how to make, or, in many cases, relearn, because we used to be great at it, but not anymore,” Trump added.

The president said he did not want to “frighten off or disincentivize Investment into America by outside Countries or Companies.”

“We welcome them, we welcome their employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from them, and do even better than them at their own ‘game,’ sometime into the not too distant future!” Trump posted.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5503520-trump-immigration-raid-hyundai-plant/

 

[W_Heisenberg]

MAGA!

Hyundai battery facility construction paused until 2026 following immigration raid​

Hyundai battery facility construction paused until 2026 following immigration raid

New information is emerging about the construction at the HL-GA Battery Company facility on the Hyundai megasite following last week's immigration raid.

www.wjcl.com

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

And how is this miracle going to occur? How many Americans are clamoring for these jobs?

I did when I was a child. I started working on a farm at 10 years old. So did most of my family and friends. A lot of my family and friends are still working on farms in their 70s and 80s. They don't believe in paying people to sit on their backside and complain.