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400 lb. Mike Moore on the Comedy Show

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Well, well,well a fatter-than-ever Michael Noore was on the Comedy Show last night talking about our horrible American health care system as the audience applauded everything the dying fat *** said. I don't even dislike the elephant man but c'mon are you going to watch someone preach the evil of cigarettes when he has a cigar in his hand? The camera was in the audience so the side shots of Moore in the sitting position showed he has become a multi-morbidly obese talking corpse. Morbidly obese is defined as 100 lbs. over your normal weight, Moors isdouble that at minimum. Yet the interviewer John whateverhisnameis never mentoned Moores condition. Healthcare starts with the individual and that is why smokers are turned away from some health plans. That is also why when you charge your groceries to your credit card and use the store discount card you data (what you purchased) is forwarded to insurance companies. You would think the interviewer would have at least said something like, "that's all fine and good Mike but lets pause for a moment and discuss your personal healthcare".
 
Well, well,well a fatter-than-ever Michael Noore was on the Comedy Show last night talking about our horrible American health care system as the audience applauded everything the dying fat *** said.

You mean The Daily Show.

I don't even dislike the elephant man but c'mon are you going to watch someone preach the evil of cigarettes when he has a cigar in his hand?

Cigarettes and cigars are completely different, so yes.

The camera was in the audience so the side shots of Moore in the sitting position showed he has become a multi-morbidly obese talking corpse. Morbidly obese is defined as 100 lbs. over your normal weight, Moors isdouble that at minimum. Yet the interviewer John whateverhisnameis never mentoned Moores condition.

That's because Moore's "condition" is completely irrelevant to the discussion of the problems with the health care system.

Healthcare starts with the individual and that is why smokers are turned away from some health plans. That is also why when you charge your groceries to your credit card and use the store discount card you data (what you purchased) is forwarded to insurance companies. You would think the interviewer would have at least said something like, "that's all fine and good Mike but lets pause for a moment and discuss your personal healthcare".

No you wouldn't. That's stupid. Your point sucks.
 
Michael Moore is just trying to get taxpayers to pay for his inevitable gastric bypass surgery. Thats all.

He should watch Super Size Me. That documentary is far more fairly done than anything Michael Moore would ever put together, and probably(although unintentionally) exposes why we have the health care problems we have in this country. Especially in regards to what kids are eating in public schools.
 
I watched Sicko, and as a free market capitalist in the strictest sense, his arguments were all valid from a logical standpoint in its arguments against our current healthcare system.

The arguments for Universal Healthcare however are problematic once people start to suggest it should be a constitutional right. If the people want it thats one thing... But lets not call a spade anything other than a spade. It is socialized medicine.
 
Michael Moore is just trying to get taxpayers to pay for his inevitable gastric bypass surgery. Thats all.

He should watch Super Size Me. That documentary is far more fairly done than anything Michael Moore would ever put together, and probably(although unintentionally) exposes why we have the health care problems we have in this country. Especially in regards to what kids are eating in public schools.

You should watch '30 Days' the cable T.V. show by the same guy that did "Super Size Me" (Morgan Spurlock). One particular episode featured Morgan and his girlfiend trying to live on 2 count 'em 2 minimum wage jobs EACH and with no health benefits. Morgan got injured at one of his jobs and had to work in pain while they could barely pay their rent and buy food for 30 days.

It amazes me that people who proudly tote how great America as being one of the best and richest countries in the world still can't grasp the fact that in this day and age quality health care should be a RIGHT not a privilege.

This prevention B.S. is just a cop out IMO. If I didn't have healthcare benefits from my job and got in a serious car accident on my way to work that wasn't my fault I'd be up sh!t creek, homeless and you'd be paying for me anyway!
 
I have to admit that I nearly laughed out loud when I saw the title of this thread. :lol:
 
You should watch '30 Days' the cable T.V. show by the same guy that did "Super Size Me" (Morgan Spurlock). One particular episode featured Morgan and his girlfiend trying to live on 2 count 'em 2 minimum wage jobs EACH and with no health benefits. Morgan got injured at one of his jobs and had to work in pain while they could barely pay their rent and buy food for 30 days.

It amazes me that people who proudly tote how great America as being one of the best and richest countries in the world still can't grasp the fact that in this day and age quality health care should be a RIGHT not a privilege.

This prevention B.S. is just a cop out IMO. If I didn't have healthcare benefits from my job and got in a serious car accident on my way to work that wasn't my fault I'd be up sh!t creek, homeless and you'd be paying for me anyway!

I saw that episode, but it was a long time ago. The only thing I hate, is the assumption most americans are indeed working and living off of minimum wage jobs, and that this healthcare problem is because of that. The healthcare problems in this country are excaburated by a whole laundry list of **** that starts at the individual and goes all the way to the top of CEOs, Health Insurance Providers, and even our government.

But healthcare is not a right. It never has been, and it never should be.
 
The arguments for Universal Healthcare however are problematic once people start to suggest it should be a constitutional right. If the people want it thats one thing... But lets not call a spade anything other than a spade. It is socialized medicine.

I think nationalized medicine is a much more fitting term.

But healthcare is not a right. It never has been, and it never should be.

Why do you think that?
 
I watched Sicko, and as a free market capitalist in the strictest sense, his arguments were all valid from a logical standpoint in its arguments against our current healthcare system.

The arguments for Universal Healthcare however are problematic once people start to suggest it should be a constitutional right. If the people want it thats one thing... But lets not call a spade anything other than a spade. It is socialized medicine.


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As for the orignally OP I never really liked Moore he is an obnoxious *******. Remember The Daily Show is a comedy program so Moore isnt gonna get grilled as oposed to him being on Hannity & Colmbs or on Tucker Carlson.
 
Why should it be?? It is not our governments place to ensure our personal health.

This didn't really answer my question. By stating that you didn't think it should be a right, you implied that it's not the government's place to ensure your personal health. So again, why do you think that?
 
I watched Sicko, and as a free market capitalist in the strictest sense, his arguments were all valid from a logical standpoint in its arguments against our current healthcare system.

The arguments for Universal Healthcare however are problematic once people start to suggest it should be a constitutional right. If the people want it thats one thing... But lets not call a spade anything other than a spade. It is socialized medicine.

Hate to burst your bubble but Democracy is a form of Socialism.
 
This didn't really answer my question. By stating that you didn't think it should be a right, you implied that it's not the government's place to ensure your personal health. So again, why do you think that?

I didn't imply it isn't the governments place, I flat out said it.

If you claim it is a right, then the government has to take measures to protect that right, which means government intervention, which more often than not, usually ends up bad for the people. Who looks at the katrina debacle and says, "Yes, lets put the government in charge of healthcare".
 
How will socialized medicine come to be? 1-The number of students studying medicine is declining today. 2- how will it impact current doctors incomes this of course trickling down to nurses, medical and drug sales people, pharmacies and of course our favorite-insurance companies. 3-in the next ten years millions will retire and the 20 million illegals will all be around (in ten years make that 40 million) 4-hopitals are closing more today than ever before. 5- emergency rooms are being abolished. 6-predctions of world plagues caused by overpopulation versus the amount of drinkable water. Sorry, Yabba The Hut but you film misses the issues entirely.
 
I didn't imply it isn't the governments place, I flat out said it.

If you claim it is a right, then the government has to take measures to protect that right, which means government intervention, which more often than not, usually ends up bad for the people. Who looks at the katrina debacle and says, "Yes, lets put the government in charge of healthcare".

Thats a strange comment. The Katrina debacle happened because of too much government?

Hmmm where was all that stultifying government when people where sitting on their rooftops or dying on their wheelchairs?
 
Thats a strange comment. The Katrina debacle happened because of too much government?

Hmmm where was all that stultifying government when people where sitting on their rooftops or dying on their wheelchairs?

I think he was trying to say that the government is bad and because of that we shouldn't give it any more power than we have to.
 
Blah Blah, he’s fat, he’s fat. 98% of the hateration against Michael Moore is because he’s fat. People hate him the second they see him and won’t listen to a thing he says based on his appearance, not just in regards to healthcare but across the board. And I can’t lie and say that I don’t understand in a sense. I know that in the back of my own mind there is a slightly Romanistic view on what a virtuous man should be like. A man should be strong, able to fight and to run, to protect his loved ones and work all day, like me. And when it’s clear that someone, due to their own lifestyle isn’t this way, it makes me question their validity and integrity. But then I realize that I’m being an arrogant, ignorant, stupid jackass. Most people don’t have that mental check, and proceed straight to the venomous hatred, often without even consciously knowing why. In addition, Moore's appearance is especially revolting. His face, even more so than his body implies some sort of weakness that our fascist impulses detest. Just a thought.
 
I didn't imply it isn't the governments place, I flat out said it.

If you claim it is a right, then the government has to take measures to protect that right, which means government intervention, which more often than not, usually ends up bad for the people. Who looks at the katrina debacle and says, "Yes, lets put the government in charge of healthcare".

Well, I don't know. I do know that Medicare recipients have a far more favorable view of the Medicare system then those insured by the private sector have of private insurers. Moreover, Medicare is far more efficient. It really just goes to the core values of a society. Do we really want to be a society where there is a profit motive in denying someone necessary medical care?
 
Well, I don't know. I do know that Medicare recipients have a far more favorable view of the Medicare system then those insured by the private sector have of private insurers. Moreover, Medicare is far more efficient. It really just goes to the core values of a society. Do we really want to be a society where there is a profit motive in denying someone necessary medical care?

Is that why people are able to make a living selling Medicare supplement plans? Sounds like its just working out awesome....

Plus profit, at least for hospitals and other healthcare industries, means innovation in medicines and technology, through private investment and funding. If we strip that away, I fear that it would be left to the government to do the research and development on their own, and that would slow the process down considerably.

However, I do take issue with some of these drug companies, in that they are essentially shovelling drugs for one purpose, that just causes other problems, which in turn needs other medication. I think there needs to be some better oversight by the FDA before they approve some of these drugs, but I don't believe we should tear down the private industry altogether.
 
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You're going to have to be more specific than this.

Thats about as specific as I can get. its up to ourselves to protect our own health, its not up to the government to protect it for us, which is what they would have to do if they were to amend the constitution and make it a right.
 
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