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1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns.
2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.
3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."
4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.
5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.
6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.
7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.
9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense -- give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p.125).
10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.
11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.
12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.
13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.
14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arm" refers to the state.
15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.
16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.
17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons", but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles", because they are military weapons.
18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, finger printing, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.
19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.
20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.
21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.
22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears."
23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.
24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.
25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.
26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon."
27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.
28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.
29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self-defense only justifies bare hands.
30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.
31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.
32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.
33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too.
34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over hand guns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.
35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self-protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.
36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun.
37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.
38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good.
39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.
40. Handgun Control, Inc. says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.
What makes you think this was written with tongue-in-cheek?
There we have itI have no idea who you are talking about in that post but I am a person trying to ban all firearms.
There we have it
because people who think like you believe that nonsense?
weren't you on record wanting to ban all guns?
If you have an ounce of integrity or honesty - I corrected that typo later. of course, you do not.
I have repeatedly stated that I support the Second Amendment as written.
People who think LIKE YOU wrote the damn piece for heavens sake. I could not have written that if I had dropped acid, ate a plate of magic mushrooms and had drunk your kool-aid. No way could my mind ever get in that warped of a place. Never.
that quote of yours was still like that tonight
you claim you support the second amendment as written
guess what-so does guy incognito and for that matter ted kennedy
they merely claim that as written the second amendment applies to the militia or the states etc
almost every gun hating liberal democrat has claimed to support that amendment
yet they weasel around and pretend it means something that none of the founders would accept
That was silly. I support the second as written and more importantly, as intended. I don't think anyone is going to challenge my pro rights credentials
however, the point you missed is that many gun haters-Kennedy and other dems-claim to support the second amendment "as written" and then claim that as written the second does not apply to individuals. Guy incognito is one who spews that garbage
Are you under the impression that I was Ted Kennedy or Guy Igcognito posting under another name?
Are you under the impression that I was Ted Kennedy or Guy Igcognito posting under another name?
no chance-those two were far more conservative
Gun control is being able to drop that global socialist scum with a single head shot
Why tell tell the enemy your coming. :shrug:
almost every gun hating liberal democrat has claimed to support that amendment
yet they weasel around and pretend it means something that none of the founders would accept
i support the amendment and i support gun control. I joined the NRA in high schoool... probably before you were born... probably before yer folks met each other.
that having been said, i am (i know... it comes as a surprise) as liberal as they come. and i do not weasel at all.
the second amendment protects citizens right to own weapons, specifically, guns. less specific is the type of gun. it is well established that the state MAY restrict gun ownership based on rationality of use... you may not own an F/A18, f'rinstance... you may not own an atomic weapon....
what constitutes rational depends on the understanding of use. the second amendment does not protect your right to protect yourself from robbers nor has SCOTUS ever ruled so. it protects your right to act as a member of a militia, no, not necessarily a formal state operated national guard, but to own arms for military purposes, even if against your own nation state.
now, let us set aside the the patent absurdity of any rebel group armed with legal weapons taking on the 101st Airborne division and trickle back to what constitutes rational use in that context.
most small arm, most handguns do not meet that criteria. courts change. laws change. expect it.
geo.
17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons", but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles", because they are military weapons.
You were already addressed in #17 on the list:
Can't have your cake and eat it too. However, last I checked both the military and law enforcement still issue handguns to all their units, so they would still seem to be a useful tactical weapon despite your assessment.
or the VPC libtard argumentYou were already addressed in #17 on the list:
Can't have your cake and eat it too. However, last I checked both the military and law enforcement still issue handguns to all their units, so they would still seem to be a useful tactical weapon despite your assessment.
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