28 year old Dutch woman to be euthanized because depression, autism, and borderline personality disorder

[JRTurner]

Ummm, a person with autism does NOT have "a mental illness".

More correctly your statement should have been "Learn to accept that your own culture despises you for no other reason than you -have a mental illness- are different?"

She has autism AND a mental illness--a personality disorder.

People with autism are treated like they have a disability--instead of being just a different way of thinking.

People with a mental illness are treated like they are liars or criminals--instead of being dignified people.

People with both suffer the most because even if one can overcome the mental illness and gain mental health, they will never be seen as equals.

I understand her pain.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

She has autism AND a mental illness--a personality disorder.

People with autism are treated like they have a disability--instead of being just a different way of thinking.

People with a mental illness are treated like they are liars or criminals--instead of being dignified people.

People with both suffer the most because even if one can overcome the mental illness and gain mental health, they will never be seen as equals.

I understand her pain.

In my opinion, the "personality disorder" is more the result of the treatment accorded persons with autism than anything else.

By analogy, it's like a "Gender dysphoria" where the person is conflicted between accepting what they are and how society insists they be. If that is the case, then they have a person has a dystphoria, but if they are NOT conflicted then they do not. If others accept them as they are, then they do not have any conflict and, hence, no dysphoria.

 

[JRTurner]

In my opinion, the "personality disorder" is more the result of the treatment accorded persons with autism than anything else.

By analogy, it's like a "Gender dysphoria" where the person is conflicted between accepting what they are and how society insists they be. If that is the case, then they have a person has a dystphoria, but if they are NOT conflicted then they do not. If others accept them as they are, then they do not have any conflict and, hence, no dysphoria.

The mental illness exists, regardless of how it came about, and shouldn't be invalidated anymore than her Autism should be.

I do see your point, however, but imo, there's a danger in demeaning mental illness as being less important, or less dignified, or less respectable than Autism in the argument you're making.

Let's just agree that those are the diagnoses and we--as lay folk on a forum--have no place determining their validity for this woman.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

The mental illness exists, regardless of how it came about, and shouldn't be invalidated anymore than her Autism should be.

I do see your point, however, but imo, there's a danger in demeaning mental illness as being less important, or less dignified, or less respectable than Autism in the argument you're making.

Let's just agree that those are the diagnoses and we--as lay folk on a forum--have no place determining their validity for this woman.

I don't think that I ever said otherwise.

A person who does not pick up "X" because they had their hands cut off and a person who does not pick up "X" because they were born without hands and a person who does not pick up "X" because they have an irrational fear of "X", and a person who does not pick up "X" because there is no "X" to pickup ALL "do not pick up 'X'". However, the "treatment" so that they CAN "pick up 'X'" is likely to vary between them.

This is a lesson that "labellers" never quite learn.

 

[JRTurner]

I don't think that I ever said otherwise.

A person who does not pick up "X" because they had their hands cut off and a person who does not pick up "X" because they were born without hands and a person who does not pick up "X" because they have an irrational fear of "X", and a person who does not pick up "X" because there is no "X" to pickup ALL "do not pick up 'X'". However, the "treatment" so that they CAN "pick up 'X'" is likely to vary between them.

This is a lesson that "labellers" never quite learn.

Allllllrighty then.