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I really hope neither runs. I have had enough of the Clintons and enough of the Bush's. Its inconceivable to me that the best both parties have to offer is from these same two families. Jim Webb is rumored to be considering running for the Dems and I would actually consider voting for him if he ran. I could never vote for Hillary, though, so if it came down between the two I would have to vote for Jeb Bush.
Set aside his family and explain what it is that you dislike about Jeb Bush. Everything negative I hear about him is either standard "He's a conservative, therefore I hate him." or "He's a Bush, therefore I hate him." Set aside the rhetoric and preconceived notions and look at the man and let us know what issues you have with him.
Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?
I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns. :lol:
What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.
Discuss - poll soon to follow.
Set aside his family and explain what it is that you dislike about Jeb Bush. Everything negative I hear about him is either standard "He's a conservative, therefore I hate him." or "He's a Bush, therefore I hate him." Set aside the rhetoric and preconceived notions and look at the man and let us know what issues you have with him.
Gary Johnson was a great Libertarian candidate...as a republican. As soon as he became a declared Libertarian and the Libertarian candidate he went all hipster whackjob. VERY disappointed.Gary Johnson - or whichever Libertarian is on the ballot
Gary Johnson was a great Libertarian candidate...as a republican. As soon as he became a declared Libertarian and the Libertarian candidate he went all hipster whackjob. VERY disappointed.
No more Bush's, no more Clinton's. We've only had 44 presidents in our history, we can do better then three Bush presidencies.
Thanks for your candidness, Lizzie and yes, Clinton would be an improvement. Personally, I believe my dog Tuco (golden retriever) would also be an improvement over what we have now. :lol:
Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?
I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns. :lol:
What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.
Discuss - poll soon to follow.
Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?
I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns. :lol:
What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.
Discuss - poll soon to follow.
Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?
I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns. :lol:
What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.
Discuss - poll soon to follow.
My husband and I share similar views, but we are in no way comparable. Perhaps some actual Clinton experience, namely having Bill to bounce ideas off of, may not be too bad and goes to Hillary's credit more so than he lame show as Sec of State.
As for Jeb, again, my siblings and I have much in common, but we hardly can be compared when making decisions. Here again, some experience from someone who is easily accessible may be beneficial.
A side by side comparison, Jeb gets my vote for actually having leadership experience. What does Hillary have to offer?
I do agree with many here who are wondering why we don't have other and more capable potential leaders. Time will tell, I am not worried yet and it won't change anything if I did.
Its time for everyone to look more closely at 3rd party options.
So the your only objection is their last names?? That's a pretty narrow-minded and, dare I say it, ignorant approach. We should be evaluating our leaders based on their capabilities, not their families.
Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?
I won't be voting, if it happens that way.
No, I would say that is a fantastic argument against and concern about aristocracy. It does not matter if we are talking about a 3rd Bush in office or a 2nd Clinton, there must be somoene out there that does not represent the polarization these families clearly bring to the table. Capabilities of course comes into play, not necessarily all one or the other but it would be moronic to not see the condition we are setting ourselves up for with political family dynasty after dynasty. In a way that also applies to the Kennedy's and several other families that have found a way that through family have a foot in the door to the political scene.
The thing is a very minority of people choose whom the two major parties will be. Only around 15% of all registered voters vote in the primaries. That 15% is going to decide whom you and I have to choose between in November. Less than half that 15% will decide whom the Republican nominee will be while around 8% decide the Democratic nominee.
If you do not like Bush or Clinton, then register and vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary. If you don't that 15% is going to decide whom will be running in 2016. Don't vote in the primaries, you really do not have anything to complain about as to whom ends up on the ballot for 2016.
If the republicans are stupid enough to prop up another RINO I am honestly thinking about voting for Clinton. Usually I just leave that part of the ballot blank and vote for the elections and ballot issues.But if the republicans think a 3rd time is a charm in propping up a RINO then I am considering doing everything on my part to make sure they loose.
That's how Obama got into the White House back in 2008.
10% of Republicans stayed at home because McCain won the Republican Presidential nomination.
Whom will you vote for, if you vote at all?
I won't be voting, if it happens that way. Queen Hillary the 2nd vs. King Jeb the 3rd? LOL - thanks, but no thanks. Think I'd rather dive into a den of cobras, then have to choose between one of those clowns. :lol:
What's scary is that it may just happen - goes to show how dumb we are becoming, imo.
Discuss - poll soon to follow.
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