ngdawg said:No one said anything in the dozens of posts here about killing a choice. /me waves
doughgirl said:"On November 12, the same six-man, six-woman jury convicted Peterson of first-degree murder with special circumstances in the death of Laci, who was eight months pregnant, and of second-degree murder in the death of the fetus, which the couple planned to name Conner." (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/13/peterson.case/)
MURDER
BodiSatva said:The whole "you can't murder a 'Choice'" thing always bothered me, simply because it is calling a potential or actual baby human a "choice".
But then again, the whole "The state or anybody else gets to tell you what to do with your body at any time" thing bothers me too.
I would not want my wife to ever have an abortion...
We love to have babies...
But unless it is late term, I am not comfortable knowing that a woman can't decide what is in her best interest. A woman is not a cargo container for something she may not want for almost a year simply because she became pregnant.
A sensitive topic
BodiSatva said:This whole thing is stupid. There is absolutely no way to satisfy all participants. It is literally impossible. The question will Never Ever EVER be settled.
I wonder how long men will continue to put up with that.A man has little to no rights regarding this either. It sucks, but that is that.[/B]
BodiSatva says, “I would not want my wife to ever have an abortion...
We love to have babies..
But unless it is late term, I am not comfortable knowing that a woman can't decide what is in her best interest.”
“A woman is not a cargo container for something she may not want for almost a year simply because she became pregnant.”
”A sensitive topic”
doughgirl said:Easyt65 They found Scott guilty… first degree MURDER for Laci and second degree MURDER for “BABY” PETERSON…
Exact words….. he murdered BABY CONNOR PETERSON, A FETUS.
The document is on this website…http://news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/peterson/captrsn120103crinf2.html
The courts saw Connor as a person as they called him a baby. So the way this read….CONNOR WAS BOTH FETUS AND BABY……SAME THING. They were not talking about two different things here, but one. Connor had rights and they recognized them by finding Scott guilty.
Bodi said, “"You pro-choicers". I like that one - Am I supposed to feel like an Evil-doer or something horrible?”
"Force" women to keep a baby that she does not want...turn her into a cargo container? That is not realistic.”
And this one at the bottom of post #8
”A woman has control of her body, and that is that.”
And this one “But unless it is late term, I am not comfortable knowing that a woman can't decide what is in her best interest. A woman is not a cargo container for something she may not want for almost a year simply because she became pregnant.”
“My friend set up a guy. Got him drunk and had a lot of sex and became pregnant. He stepped up and took care of monetary help...but what a bitch. That made a lot of us angry. Some of the gilrs actually said stuff like, 'well, she really wanted a baby'. No idea where they are now...that was the end of that friendship.”
“This whole thing is stupid. There is absolutely no way to satisfy all participants. It is literally impossible. The question will Never Ever EVER be settled.”
“Abortion as an issue is not black and white…this way or that…I am right and you are wrong…”
”If that is not clear enough, or if people think that there are only two ways to think about this subject, then that is fine, I will not try to change a person’s opinion regarding this matter…it is folly to even attempt such a feat. If you think that I contradicted myself, fine, because I did not.”
"Pro-Life" advocates need to stop fighting legislation and of taking away a person's choice to do anything, least of all a choice about what they can do to their bodies..”
“They need to start working with science to find a way to transfer a baby from the unwilling vessel (not a mother) into an artificial Matrix style chamber that will develop the baby. Of course, it will be artificial and the baby will lose lots of experiences that way, but I am sure that they will find a way to counter that as well...”
”Eventually we won't need mothers at all.”
“All the bitching can stop and we can achieve perfect artificial unity.”
When are you going to understand that the reason for that verdict and choice to charge him with two counts was the VIABILITY (or presumed so) of Conner-he was 8 months along, considered full-term.easyt65 said:THAT is what I have been saying. The court recognized Connor as a BABY, and the 2nd death sentence/guilty verdict, in priinciple, acknowledges that the UN-BORN child has rights!
“The baby is participating in the process of it’s own birth...is it not?”
“By my statements I am looking at the issue realistically. This is an argument about strategy…not about what is right and wrong.”
“Eventually we wont need mothers at all.”
BodiSatva said:I am not pro-life
BodiSatva said:jimmy bro...Get real.
Read what I actually say and stop making a horses rear of your statements by jumping on one line. If that one post is not enough to understand...read further back.
BodiSatva said:I answered it in my previous posts...
Take the time and the initiative to understand.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?