Objective... did you ever find the law that indicates it is discriminatory to NOT sell a product to someone based on race or religion?
another long post that does absolutely nothing to change the fact that abortion is NOT murder LMAO
this is not fantasy land, there are facts and then there are opinions LMAO
luckily in this country you are free to have the opinion abortion is murder but that opinion is factually wrong LMAO
aslo for the record just to add insult to your injury, saying a ZEF is a person is also just your opinion LMAO
thanks IM glad you gave me your opinion, you are free to have it, ill stick with facts :shrug:
1.)Ok, in your opinion it is not. Under current law, since murder is used to define an illegal action and abortion is legal, then yes, it is not currently classed as murder. My arguement presented factual information and a logic chain as to why it should be considered murder. You are of course free to ignore that, but just because your opinion is different does not prove your opinion is fact either.
2.)What is a ZEF as I have never seen or heard that term before, but I assume you are refering to stage commonly called a zygote. You are quick to point out somehting is not factual, but you present no arguement other than your opinion that it is not factual. I presented the kown scientific facts that lead me to the conclusion that a zygote is a person. While my identifying a zygote as a person is my opinion, that opinion is based upon science. What scientific fact leads you to the conclusion that a "ZEF" is not a person? Other than your opinion that what I said was not fact, what other arguement can you present that counters what I said?
1.)it has absolutely nothing to do with my OPINION, my opinion is 100% MEANINGLESS in this debate
the FACT is abortion is NOT murder, my opinion, just like yours is meaningless to this fact :shrug:
sorry you dont understand the difference between opinion and fact LMAO your opinion is FACTUALLY wrong
and your "logic" is just more subjective nonfactual opinion
2.) a ZEF is a medical acronym meaning Zygote, Embryo, Fetus.
Person has a definition and you provided NO facts at all to make a zygote a person, NONE
but you are right, you present how YOU come to the conclusion (your opinion) that a zygote is a person but that is not factually, its your opinion still LMAO
you dont seem to have a grasp of what a fact is at all. You posting how YOU came to a opinion is not a fact lol
my proof that a zygote is not a person are dictionaries and the definition of the word PERSON.
Person which is a subjective word from dictionary to dictionary, definition to definition most certainly is not a fact that a zygote is a person. You may get lucky and find a definition that sorta fits but in other cases youll find definitions that dont allow the connection at all.
The problem is because YOU make it work in YOUR head with YOUR own logic and subjective OPINIONS you think that makes it a fact.
Thats simply not how facts work. :shrug:
also just for some more FACTS, even if you could make some loose connection until the law recognizes a ZEF as a person its still meaningless to the word murder and the fact that abortion isnt murder
Then explain why a pregnant woman who is murdered, the murderer is charged with 2 murders?
j-mac
if you know the law you already know the answer,
1.)it is not ALWAYS double murder
2.) if YOU actually knew and understood the law its is a very specific situation like a hate crime or date rape. Its a situation where the law is written to give extra punishment to the criminal :shrug: nothing more
it also has absolutely ZERO impact on the fact that "abortion" is not murder LMAO I have no clue how you could ever make the false logical guess that it did.
stop watching tv its also rare LOL
I guess asking a simple question brings personal attack from the weak minded. Look, just suggesting that I don't understand law, and saying something so stupid as it is meant to mead out extra punishment, can you say civil rights violation?
Good God man.
Now see if you can try again civilly.
j-mac
It does indirectly.
And as I said: "the necessary and proper clause only allows the government to enact laws necessary to carry out the enumerated powers."
This has nothing to do with expanding clauses like you are saying it does, but only to make it so the government has the ABILITY to carry out the enumerated powers. How does this even get close to the lie of the living constitution idea?
No, it doesn't.
No, the Necessary and Proper Clause does no such thing. The ability of the government to carry out the enumerated powers has zero to do with that clause. And as I said, the enumerated powers become elastic through the Necessary and Proper Clause. Madison discussed this in his "dead letter" argument.
James Madison said:1. Of these the first is, the "power to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."
Since I listed all the intents and described them it does.
I wouldn't go with that argument if I were you..
Without the substance of this power, the whole Constitution would be a dead letter.
No, not what we were discussing. You brought up the Commerce Clause and something else that I'm not going to check.
I would without a problem. This indicates the elasticity of those powers. Also, Madison says this:
Without the substance of this power, the whole Constitution would be a dead letter.
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