OldWorldOrder
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I think we're all accustomed to your delusional claims of victory and calling others liars. None of us are surprised.
This is absolutely correct. Black people don't need a dude running around telling people that he thinks it's impossible for blacks to racist. It's factually incorrect, one, and just creates more friction than it solves, two.
The sociology department disagrees, kid.
I think it's silly to say that you don't want to recognize people according to "race" yet to support these kinds of laws which are based on nothing but race. It just seems to much like thought control to me. Like the government says that you are NOT allowed to hate and if you, you will be punished for feeling that emotion. Of course no one likes racism, but people should be punished for their ACTIONS and not for their thoughts. I don't have an issue with it being brought in the process of trial because it would be related to a motive, but I just don't agree with specifically punishment for and making an emotion into a crime. I don't see an actual NEED for it besides appeasement.
The dictionary disagrees, son.
Sure, because there's no racism in America today!
I want what she's smoking too.
hen you must agree that rape would be a "hate" crime against women, and child molestation would be a hate crime against children
It is only a hate crime if the reason for the attack was race. I think the reason for this attack was robbery. I would think that this group of thugs has attacked others in the past and I suspect vulnerability is a bigger factor in the choice of victims than race.
No it doesn't. You read it wrong.
I'm quite sure the sociology department has a dictionary too. And they say you're full of crap.
rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Not "institutionalized" as you would claim.It's pretty much an individual phenomenon, unless you are referring to a specific group such as the KKK, but I don't agree with individuals being charged with hate crimes.
You are missing the point here. If white kids beat and robbed a disabled black vet while taunting him with racial slurs the question of whether or not it was a hate crime would be in the article for sure and possibly in the headline itself.
Who's been punished for hating black people?
You are missing the point here. If white kids beat and robbed a disabled black vet while taunting him with racial slurs the question of whether or not it was a hate crime would be in the article for sure and possibly in the headline itself.
Actually, hate crime laws would still be used as he was disabled. This is why it is key to understand hate crime legislation.
Hatuey, did you ever get back to me about when it's okay to restrict and ignore some definitions or not? Sorry if I missed it. Is it generally good to do it or is it bad? Or does it depend on if it furthers your agenda or not?
When the term is something as complex as racism? Sure. It also goes for any of the other "isms". You're not engaging in feminism by being nice to women. You're not engaging in nazism simply because you hate Jews. You're not engaging in Fordism simply by driving a Ford. Again, complex term, analysis which requires more than childish tantrums and dictionary definitions.
Remember: black people in the 60s weren't angry about being called niggers.
I did. I'm sure I did.
When the topic is as complex as an ism? Restricting what it means is absolute nonsense
rac·ism [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Racism diluted down to simply being a dislike of people of other ethnic/racial groups is racialism.
They weren't, huh? You probably never entered many Black bars. That's maybe the craziest thing I've ever read on these boards.
Actually, hate crime laws would still be used as he was disabled. This is why it is key to understand hate crime legislation.
Ah, excellent.
So it's bad. Then why are you restricting it to only definition 2?
Why are you insisting that only one definition fits? That's restricting it. You're basically pretending 1 and 3 don't exist.
Like , you said:
And we can see that, by definition, that's false. And you're just...ignoring it? lol WHY??
You also said that black people can't be racist. And when that simple statement was corrected, you started ignoring definitions of words you didn't like, lying about what people said, and implying that people that disagreed with you were racist themselves. Childish.
The black thugs used racial slurs as they beat and robbed the white man, his disability was not mentioned in the attack.
I am not. If you actually read the definitions, number 2 is dependent on number 1 and vice versa.
Where the first definition clearly states that racism alludes to ruling over other races, the second reinstates that same idea by showing that it is also dependent on an actual system.
The last 3 of the definitions is the most commonly used soundbyte about what racism is even though it's clear from the first two definitions (let's call them academic definitions) that racism is 1) race based followed by 2) exercise of power.
They are talking about institutionalized racism, and you are talking about individual prejudice.
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