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‘It’s been a total witch-hunt. It takes its toll’: the LGBTQ+ families fleeing red states

I have two trans friends in florda who can't get medication and will have to leave, despite being long past 18 years old. The one just bought a half million dollar condo and has a startup computer business that will tank because of DeSantis. She voted for Trump is 2016 and voted for DeSantis. Maybe she will learn her lesson about voting for republicans soon.

"You people"? Really?
It's consevtives who are doing it and supportive of this LGBT terrorism. The GOP has the popularity of herpes among educated people.
 
Drama queens and liars.

They pretend that it's all right wingers rejecting their nonsense, but they are being flat out delusional. Many folks on the left know that they will be raked over the coals if they dared to speak out so they remain quiet. Gay men and women have fought hard for many decades to gain equal footing in the USA. They have made great strides not just in in changing laws, but also in gaining public acceptance..................... only to watch certain elements within the trans community go full nutjob.

Now we have female athletes have been threatened by woke universities?

Scanlan told Walsh that the UPenn athletic department informed the team in a meeting that Thomas’ spot on the women’s team was "non-negotiable" and that they would regret it if they spoke to the media.





Many lesbians have a problem with the trans agenda.

Many liberal moms have a problem with the trans agenda..

Many gay men have a problem with the trans agenda.

Female athletes are freaking sick of of them.

Even some transgender people don't like their latest agenda with young kids.
 
"You people"? Really?
It's consevtives who are doing it and supportive of this LGBT terrorism.
Drama queens and liars.

They pretend that it's all right wingers rejecting their nonsense, but they are being flat out delusional. Many folks on the left know that they will be raked over the coals if they dared to speak out so they remain quiet. Gay men and women have fought hard for many decades to gain equal footing in the USA. They have made great strides not just in in changing laws, but also in gaining public acceptance..................... only to watch certain elements within the trans community go full nutjob.

Now we have female athletes have been threatened by woke universities?

Scanlan told Walsh that the UPenn athletic department informed the team in a meeting that Thomas’ spot on the women’s team was "non-negotiable" and that they would regret it if they spoke to the media.





Many lesbians have a problem with the trans agenda.

Many liberal moms have a problem with the trans agenda..

Many gay men have a problem with the trans agenda.

Female athletes are freaking sick of of them.

Even some transgender people don't like their latest agenda with young kids.
What is the supposed trans agenda.

You better have proof before you go accusing trans people of crimes with children or teens.
 
It's consevtives who are doing it and supportive of this LGBT terrorism.

What is the supposed trans agenda.

You better have proof before you go accusing trans people of crimes with children or teens.

There ya go again Lisa. TERRORISM! No hyperbole there huh Lisa?

What crimes did I speak of specifically?


Speaking of terrorism, about the only act I have witnessed lately was a trans person walking into a Christian school with firearms............................... and we all know how that worked out.
 
There ya go again Lisa. TERRORISM! No hyperbole there huh Lisa?

What crimes did I speak of specifically?


Speaking of terrorism, about the only act I have witnessed lately was a trans person walking into a Christian school with firearms............................... and we all know how that worked out.
Harassing LGBT and causing them to be harmed or killed because of partisan polices. What do you call this?

Then explain what this means.

Even some transgender people don't like their latest agenda with young kids.
 
"This month, Lauren Rodriguez will move out of her home in Texas, a state where she has lived for 20 years, to relocate to New Zealand. “People think we are dramatic for leaving, but when you look at what’s happened to my family, we’re not,” she says, amid packing up her life’s belongings. “It has been a total witch-hunt. It takes its toll.” ...A survey this year found that 50% of LGBTQ+ Florida parents wish to move, particularly in the wake of HB1557 – otherwise known as the “don’t say gay” bill – passed in March 2022...The Miami Heat basketball player Dwyane Wade, who has a teenage trans daughter, recently made headlines for moving his family to California because he did not feel safe raising a child in south Florida amid mounting hostility and regressive legislation.

These laws encourage the “financial and emotional destruction” of LGBTQ+ people, says Bob McCranie, a Texas real estate agent who runs Flee Red States, an initiative he decided to launch in 2021 after observing intimidation of LGBTQ+ friends and colleagues. Flee Red States operates almost like a refugee organization – except that the migration is internal. People with the financial capital and flexibility to do so are fleeing political persecution in their own country. So far he has facilitated moves to Illinois, Colorado, Connecticut, New England, New York and California, working on behalf of those looking to leave states where legislation is making life unlivable, including Texas, Missouri, Alabama, Florida, Indianapolis and Tennessee.

While legislation plays out in the courts, it is engendering more on-the-ground hostility from extremist rightwing groups. In June 2022, 31 members of Patriot Front were arrested en route to a Pride event in Idaho carrying weapons. In Moore county, J. Clapp’s local area, a drag event was recently disrupted by a power outage. Reports later showed that the local power substation had been shot out, leaving 40,000 people without power. ... Of the half a dozen families the Guardian spoke to for this piece, each mentioned gun crime in the context of their fears over rising anti-LGBTQ+ sentiment. “Permitless gun laws cause a lot of people to be very concerned for their lives,” says Julio Capó Jr, author of Welcome to Fairyland: Queer Miami before 1940 and a professor of history at Florida University. “After the Pulse massacre [in Orlando], as a gay Latino man in Florida, I’d be lying if I said that when I go to a gay bar I am not looking for exits. These laws only further my fear and anxiety.”

...“The 14th amendment has been gutted with the overtaking of Roe v Wade. If the 14th amendment goes, our right to marriage and our freedom from sodomy laws, all that could go on a national level,” says McCranie. “So if we flee the state, but our rights go on a national level, the question becomes: do we need to flee the United States?"

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A national tragedy.
It's being overly dramatic. I live in Texas I'm gay I'm married to another man and nobody has ever come to hunt us.

So I call BS
 
Drama queens and liars.

They pretend that it's all right wingers rejecting their nonsense, but they are being flat out delusional. Many folks on the left know that they will be raked over the coals if they dared to speak out so they remain quiet. Gay men and women have fought hard for many decades to gain equal footing in the USA. They have made great strides not just in in changing laws, but also in gaining public acceptance..................... only to watch certain elements within the trans community go full nutjob.

Now we have female athletes have been threatened by woke universities?

Scanlan told Walsh that the UPenn athletic department informed the team in a meeting that Thomas’ spot on the women’s team was "non-negotiable" and that they would regret it if they spoke to the media.





Many lesbians have a problem with the trans agenda.

Many liberal moms have a problem with the trans agenda..

Many gay men have a problem with the trans agenda.

Female athletes are freaking sick of of them.

Even some transgender people don't like their latest agenda with young kids.

When the Supreme Court affirmed gay marriage but gutted the voting rights act, many blacks had the same feeling about gays.

But only the oppressor wins if marginalized groups resent each other. An injustice for one is an injustuce for all.

Beyind that, why would people continue to live in a state where they are needlessly repressed?
 
It's being overly dramatic. I live in Texas I'm gay I'm married to another man and nobody has ever come to hunt us.

So I call BS

First they came for the trans, and I didn't speak out because I'm not trans...
 
Play reindeer games with somebody else please. I have never discussed my race nor my orientation. In fact, I debated when I joined DP whether to identify my gender.
I find many on here never believe what you tell them anyway, they make up their own version of people and events!
 
First they came for the trans, and I didn't speak out because I'm not trans...

This is one reason we should stand up for trans rights even if we're not trans.
 
Here's more. This is so sad. So unnecessary.

"Last month, after years of failed attempts, Missouri joined 18 other Republican-led states in passing a law or policy that prohibits gender-affirming care for minors — leaving parents at a crossroads. Some are stockpiling medications or researching doctors in neighboring states. Others, like the Halufs, are uprooting their lives. The “political refugees,” as they call themselves, are teachers, lawyers, pastors, nurses and therapists. They are packing up, pulling their kids from school, and saying goodbye to friends and neighbors, cousins and co-workers.

...Who is leaving and where they are going is difficult to quantify. “Does it matter how many move? If it’s two families, it’s too many,” said Cathy Renna of the LGBTQ Task Force, a nonprofit based in Washington. “And the reality is, if someone is so scared they're going to move, they’re not going to broadcast it.”"

 
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