‘He’s not getting out’: Calls for Trump to pardon Derek Chauvin slammed by state AG who says former cop ‘still owes Minnesota 22 1/2 years’ (2 Viewers)

[SNOWFLAKE]

The attorney general of Minnesota says ongoing efforts to petition President Donald Trump for a federal pardon of Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd in 2020, are irrelevant when it comes to his state conviction — noting Sunday that Chauvin “still owes Minnesota 22 ½ years.”

Chauvin, 49, is currently serving concurrent state and federal prison sentences for killing Floyd, 46, during a police incident in which he knelt on Floyd’s neck and back for more than nine minutes. Chauvin was convicted by a 12-member jury on state charges for unintentional second-degree murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter. He later pleaded guilty in a federal civil rights case to depriving Floyd of his rights.

Chauvin was sentenced to 21 years in federal prison for the civil rights conviction in June 2021. He was given 22 ½ years for the state charges in April 2021. The U.S. Supreme Court rejected an appeal from Chauvin in his state case in 2023.

'He's not getting out': Minnesota AG throws cold water on Derek Chauvin pardon push

Minnesota's attorney general says ongoing efforts to petition President Trump for a federal pardon of Derek Chauvin are irrelevant when it comes to his state conviction and prison sentence.

lawandcrime.com

Clear case of "lawfare". Besides, Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, Floyd died of a drug overdose, right? And besides that, Floyd was one big scary looking black dude, so obviously a "thug."

 

[daeler]

I don't think people understand what the presidential pardon is. I also think it has been overused in the last 10 years.

 

[VySky]

'He's not getting out': Minnesota AG throws cold water on Derek Chauvin pardon push

Minnesota's attorney general says ongoing efforts to petition President Trump for a federal pardon of Derek Chauvin are irrelevant when it comes to his state conviction and prison sentence.

lawandcrime.com

Clear case of "lawfare". Besides, Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, Floyd died of a drug overdose, right? And besides that, Floyd was one big scary looking black dude, so obviously a "thug."

Wouldn't a pardon undermine the horse drawn carriage with his golden casket that Pelosi arranged?

 

[daeler]

Wouldn't a pardon undermine the horse drawn carriage with his golden casket that Pelosi arranged?

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That piece aside, can Trump pardon Derek Chavin?

 

[uptower]

That piece aside, can Trump pardon Derek Chavin?

Was he convicted by the state or federally?

 

[Bum]

'He's not getting out': Minnesota AG throws cold water on Derek Chauvin pardon push

Minnesota's attorney general says ongoing efforts to petition President Trump for a federal pardon of Derek Chauvin are irrelevant when it comes to his state conviction and prison sentence.

lawandcrime.com

Clear case of "lawfare". Besides, Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, Floyd died of a drug overdose, right? And besides that, Floyd was one big scary looking black dude, so obviously a "thug."

I didn't think a President could pardon anyone convicted in state courts? Has to be at a Federal level?

 

[eohrnberger]

'He's not getting out': Minnesota AG throws cold water on Derek Chauvin pardon push

Minnesota's attorney general says ongoing efforts to petition President Trump for a federal pardon of Derek Chauvin are irrelevant when it comes to his state conviction and prison sentence.

lawandcrime.com

Clear case of "lawfare".

Besides, Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, Floyd died of a drug overdose, right?

Floyd was under the influence and was medically compromised due to his prior drug use, both of which were factors in his death.
To ignore these factors would simply not be credible.

And besides that, Floyd was one big scary looking black dude, so obviously a "thug."

Floyd's criminal history established him as a 'thug', not the racism based remark you just made.

 

[daeler]

Was he convicted by the state or federally?

I was checking to see if the other poster understood the laws involved.

most convictions were State, Chavin also had one federal charge, which was for denying the rights of Floyd.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Floyd was under the influence and was medically compromised due to his prior drug use, both of which were factors in his death.
To ignore these factors would simply not be credible.


Floyd's criminal history established him as a 'thug', not the racism based remark you just made.

His criminal history made it ok to execute the "thug" then?

 

[bongsaway]

'He's not getting out': Minnesota AG throws cold water on Derek Chauvin pardon push

Minnesota's attorney general says ongoing efforts to petition President Trump for a federal pardon of Derek Chauvin are irrelevant when it comes to his state conviction and prison sentence.

lawandcrime.com

Clear case of "lawfare". Besides, Chauvin didn't kill Floyd, Floyd died of a drug overdose, right? And besides that, Floyd was one big scary looking black dude, so obviously a "thug."

If he were pardoned, who would it benefit? We as Americans? Has this now kind of thing once again become acceptable to certain folks in America who probably consider themselves patriots to boot?

Mississippi Burning, catch it now before Trump and crew remove it from the airwaves. Party means nothing, what's inside a person's mind and heart is what's important. Hate doesn't know a party.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

If he were pardoned, who would it benefit? We as Americans? Has this now kind of thing once again become acceptable to certain folks in America who probably consider themselves patriots to boot?

Mississippi Burning, catch it now before Trump and crew remove it from the airwaves. Party means nothing, what's inside a person's mind and heart is what's important. Hate doesn't know a party.

I have my own copy of Mississippi Burning as well as the Gerg Illes Nanchez Burning book trilogy.

I would recommend Righties stay away from that movie and stay away from that trilogy, they might trigger some angry outbursts.

 

[eohrnberger]

His criminal history made it ok to execute the "thug" then?

That's a questionable assertion as I do believe the restraint technique used was part of the police manual, as well as taking into consideration being medically compromised by a long history of drug use.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Absurd, Trump can only pardon the federal part, he is serving a concurrent sentence for state and federal convictions.

He is still not getting out on the state part no matter what Lord Cheeto does.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

That's a questionable assertion as I do believe the restraint technique used was part of the police manual, as well as taking into consideration being medically compromised by a long history of drug use.

SO, let's say a person has diabetes, and a cop leans on his neck till he dies, do you then say "well, he was medically compromised because he had diabetes?"

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Absurd, Trump can only pardon the federal part, he is serving a concurrent sentence for state and federal convictions.

He is still not getting out on the state part no matter what Lord Cheeto does.

BUT the thought is going to get Righties very excited nevertheless.

 

[Tangmo]

Floyd was under the influence and was medically compromised due to his prior drug use, both of which were factors in his death.
To ignore these factors would simply not be credible.


Floyd's criminal history established him as a 'thug',

Only MAGAs believe MAGAs.

Which means there were no MAGAs on the state jury in Minneapolis MN.

And no MAGA lawyers on either side in the trial of the Flatfoot Cop Derek Chauvin The Terminator who's doing 22 years in the state prison.

 

[j brown's body]

That's a questionable assertion as I do believe the restraint technique used was part of the police manual, as well as taking into consideration being medically compromised by a long history of drug use.

Fentynal makes you drowsy.

Minneapolis Police Department leadership said Chauvin should have stopped using the restraint technique once Floyd was handcuffed and no longer resisting.

 

[eohrnberger]

SO, let's say a person has diabetes, and a cop leans on his neck till he dies, do you then say "well, he was medically compromised because he had diabetes?"

You are equating the damage to the body diabetes would have with a long history of hard drug abuse.
It would really depend on how unmanaged and for how long the diabetic wasn't managing his condition.

 

[eohrnberger]

Only MAGAs believe MAGAs.

Which means there were no MAGAs on the state jury in Minneapolis MN.

And no MAGA lawyers on either side in the trial of the Flatfoot Cop Derek Chauvin The Terminator who's doing 22 years in the state prison.

This post not worth responding to. Do better.

 

[bongsaway]

That's a questionable assertion as I do believe the restraint technique used was part of the police manual, as well as taking into consideration being medically compromised by a long history of drug use.

Uh huh, I have a long history of drug usage and abuse, still use cannabis thanks to my medical card, do you? I'm very healthy for my age and in general still feel pretty darn good. If somebody were to kneel on my neck for almost ten minutes, you could say the same thing about me and it would still be untrue as to the cause of my death. What happened there was murder, plain and simple.

 

[eohrnberger]

Uh huh, I have a long history of drug usage and abuse, still use cannabis thanks to my medical card, do you? I'm very healthy for my age and in general still feel pretty darn good.

I'm glad that you are.

However, I can't think of a single drug abuse history which is exactly the same, nor any two drug abusers who are medically and physically exactly the same.

If somebody were to kneel on my neck for almost ten minutes, you could say the same thing about me and it would still be untrue as to the cause of my death. What happened there was murder, plain and simple.

 

[bongsaway]

I'm glad that you are.

However, I can't think of a single drug abuse history which is exactly the same, nor any two drug abusers who are medically and physically exactly the same.

But you flatly state his drug abuse had something to do with that cop kneeling on his neck for all that time. You are trying to defend the indefensible, which is why he's in jail for a long time.

 

[eohrnberger]

But you flatly state his drug abuse had something to do with that cop kneeling on his neck for all that time.

True.
Floyd was complaining about not being able to breath, which I do believe is one of the symptoms of the drug he abused and was under the influence of.
I don't believe the restraint applied was obstructing his airway.

You are trying to defend the indefensible, which is why he's in jail for a long time.

Calling out some of the questionable statements and assertions made isn't defending anything.
Its just calling out some of the questionable statements and assertions which have been made.

What you probably mean is that it is indefensible to disagree with your conclusions and your demanded narrative, all of which you want to push.

 

[Grand Mal]

True.
Floyd was complaining about not being able to breath, which I do believe is one of the symptoms of the drug he abused and was under the influence of.
I don't believe the restraint applied was obstructing his airway.


Calling out some of the questionable statements and assertions made isn't defending anything.
Its just calling out some of the questionable statements and assertions which have been made.

What you probably mean is that it is indefensible to disagree with your conclusions and your demanded narrative, all of which you want to push.

If Derek Chauvin had knelt on a dogs neck for 8 minutes, hearing it whimper and feeling it twitch until it finally died, the right would be howling for his head.
But a black man? His own damned fault.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

You are equating the damage to the body diabetes would have with a long history of hard drug abuse.
It would really depend on how unmanaged and for how long the diabetic wasn't managing his condition.

SO, the leaning on the neck till the perp dies has NOTHING to do with either scenario?