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    What Economic System?

    Public education is part of social democracy. And for the time it was very advanced social democracy.
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    What Economic System?

    Where do you live? I thought IN referred to Indiana. But you are correct, I and most mainstream economists, do want to destroy you. Just so we can actually go about helping people economically rather than have to fight these pie in the sky theories.
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    What Economic System?

    But a far step from communism. If you're talking about what I think you're talking about then even Adam Smith wrote about social democracy. Public education, for example, was very important in the Wealth of Nations. Clinton was a capitalist. Carter was a capitalist. Nixon was a capitalist...
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    What Economic System?

    No, during Clinton's term perhaps you could argue that but since Bush has been elected our government has definitely not been anything like the 1920s. But we digress, the point is America is not a plutocracy. Perhaps our meritocracy is not as great as it once was but it still is the prevalent...
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    What Economic System?

    You are correct, one does not. I did not realize I needed to make a list. :confused: Every study done shows that people born into the bottom quarter (or fifth or whatever the study looks at) can move into the highest quarter. The numbers that do depend on the study but all agree that it is...
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    What Economic System?

    So this is simply Bush-bashing? I have little respect for that. Perhaps you need to get a better dictionary. As the wikipedia article you listed says plutocracy is about a "wealthy class" not the wealthy. It also requires there be very little social mobility which, at least in America, is not...
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    What Economic System?

    :rofl This would be a lot funnier if you didn't actually believe it. Congressmen and the President earn far more money than the average citizen. Therefore, anyone who is in Congress or President will have more money than the average citizen. Bill Clinton, for example, did not grow up wealthy...
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    What Economic System?

    That's not even close to being true. In a capitalist society the wealthy have less control over government than in other societies.
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    What Economic System?

    Boy you guys are slippery. So where do these "wonderful" economic ideas come from then? Lenin? He certainly believed in a state. Yes, but in order to get there you must go through a period of socialism. In order to re-educate the people (IOW, brainwash). You can't have communism without going...
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    What Economic System?

    Half the people in America are against capitalism? :shock: Have any evidence to back that assertion up, anomaly? I'm fairly aware of what has and hasn't happened with communism. You don't need to keep parroting the it's never existed line.
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    What Economic System?

    Well the latter part of your statement is true but not sure where you get the former. I have never advocated plutocracy, either here or elsewhere, let alone think it can do no wrong. Not sure where you got that from.
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    What Economic System?

    Yes, I'm sure Marx put that stuff about the state in there to fool us evil capitalists. :rofl
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    What Economic System?

    Yeah, the big bad capitalists. Keep your bigotry to yourself. Capitalists aren't some cartoon image of the evil businessman. If we're going to participate in any type of discussion then you'll have to not make these type of bigoted remarks. Or you can keep it up and this simply devolves into...
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    What Economic System?

    Have you ever read the Commie Manifesto? I posted part of it here earlier. The state is mentioned a number of times. There was definitely supposed to be a government.
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    What Economic System?

    Just clarifying. If we both use different defintions of a word then our discussion is of no use. I take it then you use "so far right" to describe every mainstream economist in America? And more broadly, just about everyone in America? We're almost all capitalists. Marx makes claims about what...
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