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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    In my perfect world, there would be one and only one tax - a progressive income tax. You could send it in on a sticky note. I'm sure that will spark it's own debate. But I do offer the death tax as an interesting alternative. . The first question I ask charities is how much goes to the cause...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    Gladly, you have no idea how much I crave thoughtful interaction with the counter point. Such a simple but great example...it can be sliced so many different ways that it's making my head hurt, but I'll do my best: "Demand is what created the opportunity" - the irony here is where you seem to...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    No I'm afraid I don't admit that. People grow business to meet a demand. Demand creates jobs. And when the volume justifies automation, that same demand destroys jobs. Taxes actually should encourage employment. Businesses are taxed on profits and people are taxed on income. If you make...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    I will concede that investment has it's place in an economy if you concede that like every other sector there is an optimum balance. While it is entirely possible for an economy to be "supply starved" it is also possible for it to be oversupplied to the point of inflating the value of capital...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    Awesome. It's sad that such a preface needs to be said on a debate site, but here it is needed and I appreciate it. Great question. But honestly it's the exact same question presented with automation. Frankly it might be THE question. Because for me, the only option is a dramatic shift in...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    This is an economic discussion, and marginal propensity to consume is a real thing. If you want to say "I don't care" that is your prerogative, but at that point we're no longer having a logical debate. I'd be all for a debate on "fairness" but not at this time. It is possible to debate the...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    OH ludin, did it ever occur to you that "some amount" is the total tax from the previous brackets? This proves my point perfectly. It sure as hell doesn't demonstrate you pay more in total taxes if you make another dollar I have clarified I have offered progressive taxes, deficit spending...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    You're in the weeds. Are you suggesting that a person wouldn't try to earn 10 million dollars if he had to pay half in taxes? We don't need to talk about fairness. Because life isn't fair. It isn't fair that some people have all the advantage in the world. And some are born rich, and some...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    And there you go....Why is this the only option? Why is it not possible that we are capital heavy and that those resources need to be shifted to demand?? I could easily concede higher taxes on the lower class could lower demand in a case of inflation, or that lower taxes on the upper class...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    I'm not sure I entirely agree with this. While he did get pretty "creative" with the tax code under the guise of supply side economics, he was also doing a pretty good job at proving MMT and the positive effects of deficit spending. However, what I absolutely HATE about Reagan's legacy is the...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    I'd be honored. I think exponential penis theory and your phrases for inflation have been stuck in my head for like 5 years now :P.
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    You make it sound as though I'm suggesting we take money out of peoples bank. I'm merely suggesting that taxes are taken as a person gets paid an income. They can horde as much as they want after at that point. I think it's a bigger fallacy that savings and investment are somehow different...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    If you would like to prove your point please do so. I'm not going to go thru a couple of hundred pages of irs documentation for you with nothing more than "towards the middle" Yes, but a reasonable person wouldn't have assumed that I meant that it should hire everybody :P. I gave you three...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    Our economy, at least the way that that it runs, IS public property. We decide how our economy should run and what to do when it isn't operating efficiently. Wealth is post-tax, not pre-tax. What you buy after your transaction with the economy is complete is your business. But that...
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    Flat Wages for the middle and working class - what to do?

    This actually one of the great irony's to me. We'll take cheap goods and resources with little question, but when an autonomous creature walks over to us that can create things and provide services, we look at it as a burden?
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