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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    Mr. Mule- I've provided you with links to charts produced by NASA that show the new foam causes less damage than the old foam. I've corrected you on the primary part of your thesis that it was a Freon-free foam that caused the Columbia disaster - it was actually a freon-based foam. I've...
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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    I agree, the primary cause of the accidents wasn't the technical aspect of the exhaust blowby or this foam composition broke off, the primary cause was that the bureaucracy of NASA and its suppliers, and their failure to correctly assess and fix the continuing problems they were having. So...
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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    Rudy- Nice to meet a fellow pastafarian on this message board. At least I'm a pastafarian when I'm not following the Fuzzy Purple Hamster with Electric Green Spots. May the Flying Spaghetti Monster hover over your house...... Mule- Okay, so I think we have your claims fairly well defined -...
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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    You are making a lot of suppositions without any factual backup. You (nor I)don't know the degree to which freon foams vs. non-freon foams flake vs. break off in large pieces. We do know that the later tanks with the environmentally friendly foams are associated with less damage to the tiles...
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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    Mule- Obviously, you didn't look at the link I provided to the graph in Vol 4 of the report. It clearly showed that the later tanks (100 and up), the ones with more of the environmentally friendly foams, were involved with fewer tile dings than the earlier, freon-based foams. Both foams shed...
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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    Quite frankly, its hard to find one on the internet because of all the "green foam killed astronauts" crap out there. But use your brain - can you find any openings from the original source documents that I cited that would allow you to say it was the "green" foam that killed the astronauts...
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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    Mr. Mule- Well, you've posted a lot of stuff today. Allow me the pleasure of debunking it. First of all, in your post of at 11:56 this morning, you cite a report from the BBC. This is known as a second hand source. I'm quoting the Columbia Accident Investigation Board Report, which is a...
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    The truth about voter fraud and intimidation in the 2004 election

    The report doesn't mention the threat of a Republican official in Madison, WI to challenge every UW student at the polls. He had to quickly retract his threat, since apparently the Republicans are still under an old 1970's federal court injunction (from Maryland?) to not target classes or...
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    "Political Correctness" killed the Columbia astronauts

    The basic thesis of Missouri Mule's claim is not supported by the actual facts. I suggest that you read the Columbia Accident Investigation Board's report on the accident, specifically chapter three: "Most of the external tank is insulated with three types of spray-on foam NCFI 24-124 is a...
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